Thanks Tom,

The wind was calm today and knowing that the sections tend to work loose, we 
screwed them together with sheet metal screws. 
I would like to get a DB antenna but 700 bucks is not in our budget.

73
John

--- In [email protected], Tom Parker <t...@...> wrote:
>
> Hello W3ML,
> 
> I've been following this thread over the weekend and I think the issue 
> has been addressed.  I would check the antenna and related connectors.  
> In fact, for my 2 cents, I'd replace the G7 with a commercial grade 
> antenna, such as a DB product or equal.  Now, to your scenario today, I 
> would ask what the wind was like?  If memory serves me correctly, that 
> G7 has a couple of joints and is somewhat flimsy in terms of material 
> strength and antenna height. 
> 
> There ya go,
> 
> thp
> 
> W3ML wrote:
> >  
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio and that gives me 45 
> > out of the duplexer. Decided on this wattage until I can figure the 
> > problem better. It is working better than before, but still having 
> > trouble.
> >
> > So from what you said about power coming out duplexer, the duplexer 
> > must still be okay.
> >
> > However, during the day today there were 3 hams talking and they said 
> > (later) that all of them were loud and clear. But, when I got home and 
> > tried to call one of them, he was covered in noise.
> >
> > Later one of the others called in and he would be clear, then the 
> > repeater would cut out and his signal would be gone, then it would 
> > come back with noise on his signal and then clear again.
> >
> > Then the other one came in with a lot of noise, then he would come in 
> > with a little noise and then no noise at all and then back again 
> > through this cycle.
> >
> > This cycle of noise and then no noise is driving me crazy.
> >
> > The set up is this:
> >
> > GE Mastr II VHF mobile running into a 6 cavity duplexer set to our 
> > freqs with a service monitor prior to bringing it here.
> >
> > There is a bandpass filter on the receive side after the duplexer and 
> > before the radio.
> >
> > We have used 1/2 inch hardline going up to the used G7-144.
> >
> > Then only thing I can think of is the radio is bad, the antenna is no 
> > good and the coax is shot.
> >
> > Now, the radio was given to us by a group that had used it, but 
> > decided to replace it with a Kenwood.
> >
> > I am thinking that they had the same problem and that is why they gave 
> > it away.
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > 73
> > John, W3ML
> >
> > - In [email protected] 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>, W9SRV <tgundo2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok-
> > >
> > > 1. Where are you checking the swr at in the chain? Make sure you 
> > bypass the duplexers to check the antenna, the cans can throw off the 
> > reading on some meters like you describe using. If you are less than 
> > 1.5:1 I would not worry too much more about it, any reflected power 
> > will get eaten up back in the cans. If you are really concerned about 
> > protecting the TX put a circulator in-line with it.
> > >
> > > 2. Make sure all the interconnecting cables are good shielded and 
> > not foil/ braid type. RG-213 and RG-400 are good choices, though there 
> > are a few more.
> > >
> > > 3. Terminate into a good dummy load. Set you output power to 80-90W. 
> > Then run thru the duplexer and check the power coming out of the cans. 
> > You should see something like 60-70w, depending on the spec of the 
> > duplexer. If your seeing much less than you may have a duplexer tuning 
> > issue.
> > >
> > > Figure out the real problem, let the radio run at a real spec power 
> > output, than absorb the title of "far lord" as every one thanks you 
> > for giving the repeater twice as many s-units. (then be prepared for 
> > the next round of complaints that become your problem)
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > W9SRV
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Oct 4, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "W3ML" <w3ml@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, except when it was at the 2o watts the swr was almost 1 and 
> > someone said that was the problem causing the de-sense. So we were 
> > afraid to run it higher.
> > >
> > > Like you said guess it was only a problem from running too little of 
> > power.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks and 73
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected] 
> > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>, W9SRV <tgundo2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You answered your own question :
> > >
> > > "So it appears that this radio, which is a GE Mastr II mobile, 
> > doesn't like to run at the lower wattage of 10 to 20 watts out."
> > >
> > > 110w radio will not be stable at 10-20w. If you look at your output 
> > on a spectrum you probably have spurs all over the place. Any reason 
> > you cannot run it at least 1/2-2/3 power?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > W9SRV
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:46 PM, "W3ML" <w3ml@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So it appears that this radio, which is a GE Mastr II mobile, 
> > doesn't like to run at the lower wattage of 10 to 20 watts out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
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