There are at least two transmitters at two sites... not likely they're 
all bad.  But... the owner has assured me they're clean and I haven't 
seen anything hokey on the spectrum analyzer from the repeater site.

Mike
WM4B

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Did you look a the output of the paging transmitters with a spectrum 
analyzer?




Oct 28, 2009 06:29:13 PM, [email protected]   wrote:









A couple of weeks ago, our repeater system started to experience 
interference from a paging system.  The repeater is on 146.850 (-600 
KHz), with the antenna system about 120 feet up a water tower.  The 
repeater itself is an Advanced Communications System KRP-5000 running 35 
watts through a set of 4 WACOM cans.  The feedline is 7/8" hardline 
feeding a DB-224.  All jumpers are RG-214 MILSPEC with MILSPEC 
connectors.  This system has been in service for years and has never 
given us any problems, and we are the only ones at the site.



  To be clear, the interference we are experiencing is clearly audible 
on the repeater input.  I have the capability to monitor via telephone 
and have heard it on the receiver, and I've also traveled to the site 
and heard the interference on my mobile radio hooked to the repeater 
antenna.  The interference is also audible on the input in various 
locations around town.  Also, the interference can be heard on the input 
regardless of whether or not the repeater transmitter is on.  It also 
continued to be present during several days of continuous heavy rain.



  The interference typically shows up at least once a day, although some 
days (rarely) it does not show up at all and other days it will show up 
several times.  Lately, it's been making an appearance around 10 a.m. 
and hangs around for an hour or two.  As it begins to disappear, it 
sounds as though it is moving off frequency.



  This interference has also been heard on at least two other repeaters 
in the area.  One is about 22 air-miles from the 146.85 machine and is 
on 145.110 (-600 KHz).  It has also been heard on or near the output 
frequency of that machine, and one evening I tracked it from about 
145.120 to 145.190 as it swept through each transmission.  The other 
repeater it has been heard on is 147.300 (+600 KHz).  I also have 
reports from a neighboring county a ham/deputy sheriff there has been 
hearing it on VHF public safety frequencies.  As you can see, it's all 
over the place.



  I've been working with the owner of a local paging company and we can 
clearly tell that the data we're hearing is coming from 152.480 and 
462.775.  He has two sites (about 20 miles apart) that simulcasts on 
both frequencies and when those transmitters are active it's easy to 
tell that the data is the same.  He also tells me that he can key each 
transmitter separately and the data from each transmitter will be heard 
on our repeater.  We also believe that there are other systems on nearby 
frequencies that are being heard on our repeater, specifically 462.850 
and 462.925.



  I've run IMD numbers on everything I can think of, but can't come up 
with a common thread.  For it to be moving all through the 2-meter band 
and for it to be mixing with several different frequencies, it seems to 
me that it's got to be very ugly and unstable.  What am I missing here?



  Mike

  WM4B









        













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