It ain't repeater tech talk and you forgot to blame it on the president ;-)
I'm already having a nice evening but thanks anyway...I just read the note from this morning that this thread is OVER! Best, dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Nate Duehr To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet On 1/5/2010 4:17 PM, WA3GIN wrote: I'm waiting to here on this thread that it must be the President's fault this guy asked the question, haha. When are we going back to tech talk? I just sent an apology. I read the list and reply to messages in order received. Just as a side-note for your edification, VoIP and IP design and how to troubleshoot such technologies (e.g. packet sniffers) *is* ... "talking tech" these days. Just so you're aware. Anyone who knows me, knows I've been involved in multiple pioneering efforts to bring VoIP linking to Amateur Radio for over a decade now. My "beef" with this guy's question is that it showed a lack of proper engineering DESIGN, and requirements planning, not any problem with the technology being proposed. Proper engineering design is what we're all shooting for, even on our hobby radio systems, right? In this case he was asking about a professional system and has less knowledge of VoIP than the HOBBYISTS here... so he'd better find a pro and find one quick. :-) Anyway, have a nice evening. Oh wait, I almost forgot... Yes, there IS a secret plan to destroy the Internet by having side-conversations like those that normally happen in person when talking to other humans. It's been going on since the USENET days. (Maybe the conspiracy extends all the way back to BBS's and FidoNet but we're not sure. The original founders of "The Plan" are shrouded in mystery.) I'm sure "The Plan" will be effective soon and the world will come to an end. One of the major components of the plan is to get people to react with snide remarks, which makes it all work so very well! ;-) Hahaha... Nate WY0X I don't really care much to read some people's subjective opinions regarding this guy's concept nor do I want to wear out my delete key. This guys motivation or his bosses directive is none of our business pro or con. The Emergency Managment, Emergency Call Center, Radio Manager and Information Security Officer qualified folks on this reflector know what the applicable regulations and DOJ requirements are and we sure don't need to hear about it from the what if experts... I'm beginning to wonder if someone just planted this topic to watch this reflector self-distruct, DUH! ----- Original Message ----- From: Nate Duehr To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] dispatch centers run through the internet On 1/4/2010 2:33 PM, wd8chl wrote: Security is also a big issue with trying to use the internet for something like this. Anyone with a little knowledge can hack into it and do whatever. Who needs to hack? All common VoIP protocols in use are sniffable and playable from 100% free tools like Wireshark. All that's required is a copy of the packets... piece of cake. We do it all the time for troubleshooting in the VoIP telco hardware vendor world. This whole plan probably also runs afoul of HIPPA regulations for Medical dispatch, once you start sending un-encrypted VoIP to a residential IP from the dispatch center, now that I think a little more about it. Nate WY0X
