> Re: Need DB4048 Duplexer Info
> "larynl2" <lar...@...> wrote:
> Hi all I'm working on a 1 mc. split repeater using this 
> duplexer. 

I would recommend you visit the following web page:  

http://www.ke3ht.org/14703/db-4048.html 

> Transmitter is a VHF Engineering; output is 1 watt. I'm 
> using a Mastr II receiver with no preamp.  Interconnect 
> cables are RG142. 

The VHF Engineering Transmitter is actually a fairly well 
thought out circuit and when properly tuned is a more than fair 
performer. The Mastr II Receiver is a legendary good performing 
circuit so you're off to a great start. 

> The old VHF Engineering receiver developed problems not 
> worth fixing, so everything is on the bench for the new 
> receiver and re-tuning.

The original VHF Engineering Receiver really is/was crap when 
compared to any real commercial Land Mobile Radio Receiver. 

> Desense was always an issue with this repeater, with 1-3db 
> pretty normal. 

1 watt and a Master II Receiver with a 1 MHz split?  wow... 

> So I decided to re-tune the duplexer. I used a signal 
> generator and receiver.  All ports were either terminated in 
> 50 ohms or had a 10db pad in series with the generator and 
> receiver during tuning for minimum signal through the respective 
> halves.  It seems to tune well and predictably.  However, 
> I'm getting 20db+ of desense with the duplexer operating 
> into a known good dummy load.  I can reduce the desense 
> considerably by *winging it* and tuning the cavities while 
> the repeater is operating.  (Maybe that's the way I should 
> tune it.......!)  So something isn't right.  

Someone with a Network analyzer or Spectrum Analyzer with a 
Tracking Generator would save you a lot of time figuring out 
what is really going on. 

> I'm not totally convinced that this duplexer wasn't <played 
> with> at some point, so it is possible that cables in the 
> harness were mixed up.  There is no labeling or other info 
> on the duplexer, since the metal box that it was in when 
> new is gone along with the nameplate.  So it is not clear 
> which side is which, and I may have been trying to use it 
> reversed (although I don't think so).  I believe that this 
> duplexer was originally ordered for 2M, but I could be wrong, 
> which could account for some troubles.
> 
> So where would I find info on harness cable lengths so I 
> can check them?  Or if someone has one of these working on 
> 2M and is willing to make some measurements that would be 
> awesome.  And which half of the duplexer is for the high 
> and low frequencies?
> Laryn K8TVZ

Start off with the web page I reference above... 

cheers, 
s. 


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