On Feb 16, 2010, at 9:57 PM, KE4ZDG wrote:

> Hey folks,
> 
> I'm working on a GE Mastr II high band repeater. Someone gave me some 
> crystals that were made up for 146.010 RX. I installed one in an EC ICOM and 
> the best I can adjust for is 146.0064, which sounds really scratchy when I 
> inject a >3k deviation signal on 146.010. When I tune the monitor down to 
> 146.0064, the RX audio cleans right up.
> 
> I've backed out the screw until there's no more threads left in the ICOM. Is 
> there a capacitor I can change or add to give me a little more tuning range 
> to the ICOM? I just need the crystal to go up a hair more (400 Hz on the 
> crystal freq).
> 
> I know I'm promoting cheapness by not buying another crystal, but the club 
> doesn't have much money to spend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jared

Just to comment on the "cheapness" part... you do realize you can re-rock an 
ICOM yourself?  

The crystal will run about $20-$25 last I checked from any of the reputable 
crystal houses.  It won't be temperature-compensated or "burnt-in" and you 
could experience some frequency instability, but they usually work and settle 
down after anywhere from 6 months to a year.  (Just visit the repeater every 
couple of months and check it.)  I think I paid less than that once, even.

Most folks here will recommend not being this "cheap" and having the whole ICOM 
sent in, full compensation, all that stuff... but for "non-critical" repeater 
stuff I've slapped ICM rocks in an ICOM and run with it.  Especially for "test" 
crystals for use in the basement test lab, etc.

$20-$25 is BEYOND cheap when the full price of a good, working, repeater system 
is factored against it.  Of course, I think the full crystal and compensation 
are cheap, but I wouldn't put a repeater anywhere near a crap duplexer/antenna 
setup, having seen what good ones do for the system.  Any pair of radios can be 
a repeater.  The antenna system including duplexer, feedline, connectors, and 
antenna (plus lightning protection) makes it perform.

You've also read the appropriate LBI manuals on the Repeater-Builder site and 
articles about EC ICOM's and how they require a 5C ICOM installed to drive 
their compensation voltage, right?  Just checking.  A lot of people will swear 
that you need 2C ICOMs for repeaters and then don't read the LBI's that a 5C 
ICOM will hold 2PPM within a very broad temperature range... and any 5C will 
compensate an EC.  Only outside of that range in the chart in the LBI is the 2C 
even a necessity... so if the repeater lives in any kind of 
temperature-controlled environment...

Anyway... my $0.02 and another buck will get you some Via instant coffee.  :-)

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Nate Duehr, WY0X
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