Kris,  the reason we don't put T-1 on cable pairs is of course NEXT & FEXT. 
The receive level
from a T-1 MUX is 6 Volts P:P so it will spill all over the cable.
The standard for T-1 in seperately shielded pairs.
We do use twisted pairs at a cross connect panel for short runs... (DSX-1 
Panel)

The HDSL technology does allow for T-1 on cable pairs but it uses 2B1Q 
protocol
and there is really only 12 channels of the T-1 signal on each pair.   2B1Q 
was developed
by Northern Telecom in Ottawa.


73 John VE3AMZ
Retired, Bell Canada
and MTS Allstream


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kris Kirby" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LOOONG audio runs


> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, JOHN MACKEY wrote:
>> Using balanced audio in a broadcast environment, I have on rare
>> occasions experienced issues with cross-talk between long runs of
>> un-shielded balanced audio lines.  (inductive pickup??)  I always
>> wondered if the wires were truly balanced when that happened.
>
> That's probably NEXT or FEXT, which is near-end cross-talk and far-end.
> Bell documented this stuff somewhere; I've read the book. There's a
> reason why they don't run the T1 lines with the voice lines or why they
> don't stuff the entire binder full of T1s.
>
> Of course, that same book explained how to use the cable pairs as
> resistors to heat up the cable, which has been done a few times in NYC,
> resulting in dead pairs in the cable due to too much power/heating on a
> given pair.
>
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> Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
> Disinformation Analyst
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