I had a vhf repeater up and running for a little while. Had 180 watts out of 
the cans and it was pretty well balanced if you had a 60 watt mobile with a 5/8 
wave ant on your roof. I would say it may have been leaning just a bit to being 
like an alligator, but for the most part if you could hear it, you could work 
it as well.
73
Norm

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 200 watts on a repeater transmitter - was 
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Thanks for that, saw them in the Keys many years ago.
It seems logical that if a rptr tx is running 200w, and the
mobile is running say 50w then it is going to be one way
ie mobile hears rptr but rptr don't hear mobile too well

73

Steve
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> An alligator is a cayman or crocodile like creature that has a massive 
> mouth and marginal ears. The implication is that the repeater talks better 
> and or farther that it hears or receives.
> 73
> Norm
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> ermmm, being in the UK, what's an aligator ?
>
> Steve
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> From: "Kris Kirby" <k...@catonic.us <mailto:kris%40catonic.us>  
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>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, nj902 wrote:
>>> It should also be noted that he is planning a system with voting
>>> receivers. It is very possible that these receivers will improve the
>>> talk-in sufficiently that the system will be talk-out limited even
>>> with 200 Watts.
>>
>> Until he has those recievers deployed and working, it's an alligator.
>>
>>>
>>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
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>>> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , Kevin Custer <kug...@...> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> " We have been over this many times. If a system is balanced with a
>>> receiver at -116 dBm running 50 watts of power, then it will be
>>> balanced with 200 watts and a properly deployed preamp adding 6 dB of
>>> gain. The added power level on the repeater transmitter helps with
>>> noise that is common in urban locations experienced by the mobile;
>>> noise that is not experienced by the repeater receiver. ..."
>>
>> I think that one would be better served by choosing an antenna
>> appropriate to the purpose of the repeater. If you need urban coverage,
>> choose an antenna with more null-fill, or less gain.
>>
>> If you have to pay for power (or make your own power!), you'll spend
>> more time working on an antenna that will cover what you need so your
>> transmitter can be ten watts or less.
>>
>> --
>> Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
>> Disinformation Analyst
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