Well, I have it all connected and running, coming straight out of the Doug Hall 
voter. Audio is fine, TKR-850 is sending ID's as programmed, everything is OK 
except one item: I have no squelch tail (carrier delay). The system keys up and 
down exactly within the timing window of the mobile user. Is there anyway for 
the TKR-850 to add back a carrier delay operating in Duplex mode, rather than 
Repeater mode?
 

--- In [email protected], Ken Arck <ah...@...> wrote:
>
> At 05:41 PM 4/21/2010, midcom.audio wrote:
> >
> >
> >I'm attempting to update an existing repeater system that currently 
> >uses a Hall voter in tandem with a ComSpec TP-38 CTCSS repeater tone 
> >panel. The replacement RF deck is a Kenwood TKR-850 Series I. The 
> >previous RF deck was a KSG-4500, operating in a plain, dumb, 
> >duplexed TX / RX mode with no internal controller, PL decode, etc. I 
> >used the ComSpec TP-38 in the repeat audio path following the Hall 
> >voted audio to handle PL encode-decode, TOT, carrier delay/squelch tail, etc.
> >
> >Reading from the Repeater-Builder site, I came across the following 
> >comment regarding use of an 850: "If you are using an external 
> >controller you set it to "duplex base" mode, with COR on Aux out #1 
> >and TOR (tone decode) on Aux out #2."
> >
> >I would very much like to eliminate the need for the TP-38 external 
> >CTCSS unit if at all possible, instead utilizing the TKR-850's 
> >INTERNAL PL encode/decode capabilities, carrier delay, CW ID, etc. 
> >My questions is: If I program the 850 from "repeater" into "duplex" 
> >operation, do I lose all those features normally found in "repeater" 
> >mode, rendering the 850 back to a "dumb" radio like its predecessor? 
> >Assuming those features DO remain, how does one "break" the normal, 
> >internal repeat audio path, since it will be necessary to route 
> >local receiver audio out to the Hall voter for comparator operation?
> 
> <---Bottom line Mike is yes. You retain all the features (multitable, 
> etc) when the TKR is programmed for duplex operation and you let an 
> external controller do its thing.
> 
> Ken
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