Back in the 70's I was working for the Jefferson County Police in Louisville 
Ky. We had a hi-band system and when the University of Cincinnati football team 
came to town to play against the UofL team they brought their portables and 
would you know they were on our input to one of our repeaters and had the same 
tone. In the evening we recorded much profanity between two users who didn't 
know they were being broadcast on our repeater.

Not sure what happened after turning it over to the FCC but I'm sure some heads 
did roll.


David


Apr 30, 2010 05:15:54 AM, [email protected] wrote:

  



This is a complex "Problem". Wal-Mart corporate management KNOWS radios require 
a FCC license. In reality Wal-Mart should have a person on staff that requests 
licenses for EACH AND EVERY Wal-Mart location.He should ship the correctly 
programmed radios to the correct locations.But what do you do when the LOCAL 
store manager takes things into his own hands?
Scenerio #2
Roscoe owns a plumbing company in CALIFORNIA. He was issued a license for 
several mobiles and handhelds on a 470Mhz splinter channel.So far..so good...
Roscoe says to hell with California (and it's taxes) and moves his business to 
Las Vegas, Nv. Roscoe takes the radios with the business.There are NO REPEATERS 
in las Vegas on 470Mhz due to TV channels on that part of the band (470-476 and 
506-512).Roscoe operates the radios (Simplex) in Vegas, causing interferance to 
the TV channel and getting slammed by the wideband digital signal they put 
out.Happens more then you think!
Bottom line....
These people dont care where they fire up or who they interfere with. When Mom 
and Pa open a corner market or booths at the swapmeet you better hope they dont 
score a good deal on a few 2 meter walkies on 146.520 !
Another "Problem" in Las Vegas....
While this one is not a huge problem, it happens too. Visitors come to Las 
Vegas from a lot of foreign countries. People in the UK have whats called "PMR" 
radios. It's their FRS service. The radios are all simplex, 8 channels on 
6.25Khz splinter channels starting at 446.000 !!!! Yep! if you scan those 
channels here you DO hear activity on them!
Now our output channels are 445.000 to 449.975Mhz, but * IF* we were high 
in,low out this would be a problem.
Here is another good one....
For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any frequency 
co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in Las Vegas that has 
a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on 154.570Mhz !!!  WHAT THE HELL 
WERE THEY THINKING???? This freq is MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a 
licensed channel used by damn near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru 
window!! Can you possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a 
Robot on???? Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video 
feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV 
channel!! For people that are very "Smart" they could not be dumber when it 
comes to choice of frequencies!! They COULD order it with a VHF channel 
licensed to the very same dept and the video COULD be in the 1700Mhz area set 
aside for FEDERAL use (or even 4.9Ghz)..... 
Carry a "Nearfield" scanner in your pocket, it will blow your mind where stuff 
pops up!.


On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:05 PM, wd8chl <[email protected]> wrote:

  



Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote:
> since those radios wander from store to store having the frequency programmed 
> in as a convenience for the store personnel, I would not, find out of the 
> ordinary or particularly in violation of the FC C rules.
> And that I would think is a legitimate defense for them.
> But not being a Lawyer practicing bvefore the FCC might disqualify my opinion.
> Practicality has no place in the FCC rules...obviously... and never has.
> mdm
> 

Nope, not a legit argument. They were using the frequency at that store, 
which is a violation.




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