Oops!  I just found that switch on both HPN9033A power supplies- hidden
beneath some nearly-invisible black tape that probably was affixed to keep
it from being nudged into the continuous position.  I shall now return to
the kitchen for a well-earned serving of crow!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Milt
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater devices

  

The original GR1225 power supply was a linear Astron SL-14M good for 7A
continuous and 14A @ 20% duty cycle.  It had 2 molex connectors on the back,
one for the high current DC and the other, a 6 pin, for the fan. 
 
The current product is HPN9033A a Duracomm RP-15 switcher with a high
current pigtail and a second pigtail for the fan.  THese have the switch
just below the pigtails that either runs the fan constantly or follows the
thermal switching.
 
Milt
N3LTQ 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Larry Horlick <mailto:[email protected]>  
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>  
        Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 AM
        Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater
devices

        What is the Moto part no. of the ps to which you refer?
         
        lh
        
         
        On 5/3/10, Milt <[email protected]> wrote: 

                  

                Eric,
                
                The power supply on the RKR and GR series repeaters has a
switch which 
                controls the action of the fan. It can either be thermally
controlled or 
                run constantly.
                
                Milt
                N3LTQ
                
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: "Eric Lemmon" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
                To: <[email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
                
                Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:04 PM
                Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching
repeater devices
                
                > Larry,
                >
                > That's odd; both the GR1225 and RKR1225 repeaters I am
familiar with, 
                > which
                > use the R1225 transceiver, have a small thermal switch
that is wedged
                > between two of the heat-sink fins. In both repeaters, the
fan runs only
                > when the radio gets hot. I am surprised that you have a
repeater using 
                > the
                > R1225 in which the fan runs continuously. Perhaps this
installation is a
                > prime candidate for a thermal switch!
                >
                > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
                >
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Larry Horlick
                > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:13 PM
                > To: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching
repeater devices
                >
                >
                >
                > This is excellent Eric. I have an R1225 repeater in a
GR500 case. There is 
                > a
                > fan but it runs continuously. The duty cycle is low but
because of the
                > nature of
                > the service there are times when it may be very high for
extended periods 
                > of
                > time.
                > So most of the time the fan is not needed, but I want it
there for those
                > rare occasions.
                > I don't recognize the part no. on the fan it looks
remarkably similar to 
                > the
                > one stock in
                > GR500. This will work very well for me. Thanks.
                >
                > lh
                >
                > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Eric Lemmon
<[email protected] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> 
                > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> >
> wrote:
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Larry,
                >
                > My first use of this thermal switch was on a solar-powered
Motorola
                > R1225
                > UHF repeater at a commercial site. I simply drilled and
tapped two
                > 4-40
                > holes on a flat portion of the outside fin, and mounted
the thermal
                > switch
                > after applying some heat-conductive paste. I used a
three-inch
                > low-EMI
                > Panasonic fan blowing right on the fins. This is a 45-watt
repeater
                > set for
                > about 30 watts output. It went into service early in 2003,
and has
                > been
                > trouble-free ever since. I have attached a picture of what
it looks
                > like.
                >
                > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> >
                > [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> > ] On Behalf Of Larry Horlick
                > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:56 AM
                > To: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> >
                > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching
repeater
                > devices
                >
                > Eric,
                >
                > This is good info. I have an immediate use for this. How
have you
                > actually
                > attached this 'stat to the fin?
                >
                > Larry
                >
                > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Eric Lemmon
<[email protected] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> 
                > <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net
<mailto:wb6fly%2540verizon.net> >
                > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net>
<mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net <mailto:wb6fly%2540verizon.net> > > > wrote:
                >
                >
                >
                > Scott,
                >
                > I must agree that the CK1614 is an extremely versatile
timer, with
                > many
                > potential uses. However, using it for fan control is not
only
                > expensive,
                > but unnecessary.
                >
                > A fan blowing on a transmitter heat sink does absolutely
nothing
                > immediately
                > after the transmitter is keyed, since the heat sink is
likely at
                > ambient
                > temperature. It takes a period of time for the heat sink
to warm up,
                > so
                > operating the fan prematurely is a waste of energy- which
may be an
                > issue
                > for a solar-powered repeater.
                >
                > IMHO, the most efficient means of fan control is also the
cheapest:
                > A
                > thermal switch. My first choice is a Cantherm #R2005015
                > normally-open
                > thermostat that closes at 50 degrees Celsius, about 122
degrees
                > Fahrenheit.
                > When attached to a heat-sink fin, it turns the fan on when
                > necessary, and
                > keeps it on until the heat sink cools below about 100
degrees F-
                > around body
                > temperature. This particular switch is available from
Digi-Key for
                > about
                > $9, as Catalog Number 317-1094-ND.
                >
                > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
                >
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: [email protected]
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                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> >
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%252540yahoogroups.com> > >
                > [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
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                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
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                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%252540yahoogroups.com> > > ] On Behalf Of na4it
                > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:38 AM
                > To: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> >
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com> 
                > <mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%252540yahoogroups.com> > >
                > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching
repeater devices
                >
                > I have started using this little kit
                >
(http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> 
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> >
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> 
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> > >
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> 
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> >
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> 
                >
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> > > > ) for fan
                > control on repeaters. I can also be used as a PTT and Time
Out
                > circuit,
                > along with a lot of other uses.
                >
                > Download the pdf on that site and check it out.
                >
                > Scott NA4IT
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
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