I am going to have to disagree with you. Take it from me. I have tried 
everything under the sun when it comes to manipulate the size of or tuning of 
the loops but to no avail. In my opinion, and Allen might disagree (listen to 
him) the harness seems to have more to do with the match than the size of the 
loops. I have gone to great length (no pun intended) to modify the lengths of 
the loops to no avail...
The harness is the key.
73
Norm

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun May 09 21:49:59 2010
Subject: [possible spam]  RE: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial VHF antenna on 2m

  


What ever the radiator is one word  springs to mind 
 which if adjusted correctly makes the harness much less important and explains 
the vwsr imbalance

 Resonance 

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To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 19:13:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial VHF antenna on 2m

  
Dave,
Is this a 154 MHz colinear antenna you are wanting to use on 146 MHz or one 
like a DB 224 with 4 exposed dipoles?
If the 4 exposed dipole type, just what makes you suspect that there is "a lot 
of loss" when an antenna made for 154 MHz is used at 146 MHz and how do you 
expect to tune the dipoles without compensating for the harness impedance 
matching sections mismatch also.
Allan Crites  wa9zzu

--- On Sat, 5/8/10, WA3GIN <[email protected]> wrote:



        From: WA3GIN <[email protected]>
        Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Commercial VHF antenna on 2m
        To: [email protected]
        Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 11:13 PM
        
        
          
        Hi folks,
         
        Several weeks ago I posed the question of using a Commercial VHF 
antenna that was resonant on 154Mhz on 146.745Mhz.  We tried it today. The SWR 
was a bit over 2:1 on the repeater freq. We installed a T connector after the 
cans and used an open stub to try to match the line...got it down to 1.5:1, 
wouldn't go any lower. 
         
        We think the height of the antenna makes up for what we suspect is a 
lot of loss in the antenna. The previous location of the repeater antenna was 
100ft ASL and this location is 525ft ASL. Maybe one day we'll get a chance to 
retune the four dipole antenna.
         
        Thanks to all that provided ideas for this project.
         
        73,
        dave
        wa3gin
         

        


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