Josh,

Ed's description for tuning is right on the money.
I would try moving the unit just a slight bit to get used to how it tunes 
before trying to move it over such a wide frequency range.  Once you are 
comfortable with your equipment and how the duplexer tunes, then move it to 
the new amateur frequency.

Milt
N3LTQ


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Yoho" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help Needed (Guidance and advice) tuning a 
DB Products Duplexer


> Josh wrote:
>> Ok so here's what I've got (I think)
>>
>> http://www.n2ckh.com/FORSALE/REPEATERS/DUPLEXERS/DB4076/DSC02678.JPG
>>
>> Hamvention special, 4 cavities, appears to be a DB Products 4076 family 
>> unit.   My bench tools: HP 8924c w/ Spec Analyzer and Tracking Generator.
>>
>> My problem - existing set of cans is tuned for 460~mhz.  I need to bring 
>> them down to 443/448.    It was my understanding that they would have 
>> dual adjustments - one for setting the band pass frequency, one for 
>> setting the reject frequency.   Sounds simple.  Except under the 'covers' 
>> there is nothing else to adjust... So are they just single frequency pass 
>> or notch filters?
>>
>> So thats the first question - The second question is - ok , so if they're 
>> just single frequency filters, why can't I spin them 'into the right 
>> range' as easily as I thought I'd be able to do.... I've tuned a couple 
>> of motorola micor filters on the spec analyzer in the last couple of 
>> days, mostly made sense and was smooth as silk... However, after messing 
>> with the first can, I'm confused.  Moving the adjustment certainly 
>> changes the properties of the notching - but it didnt really move the 
>> bandpass around... It mostly changed the shape and depth of the 
>> notching - not the frequency.
>>
>> What knowledge am I missing - I'm an amateur :)
>>
>> Yes I've seen the 'how to tune db products duplexor' doc - but it talks 
>> about dual controls, which apparently I don't have.
>>
>> Did I buy a piece of junkola?  Teach me obie-wan.
>>
>> j
>>
>>
>
> Josh,
>
> The large nut tipped rods in the center of each cavity are the pass
> adjustments. Loosen the locking nut at the bottom of each tuning rod and
> turn the shafts clockwise to set the pass responses where you want. Be
> sure to keep them set high and low as they are labeled. Once the pass is
> where you want it, tighten the clamp nuts back down. Then remove the
> small round covers between the N connectors on each cavity and use a
> small screwdriver or metal tipped tuning tool to _carefully_ put the
> notches where they belong. Put the covers back on and enjoy.
>
> Be sure to put a termination on the side you are not tuning.
>
> Ed Yoho
> W6YJ
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