Hi
as do most european 6mtr repeaters, 500Kc split

73

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Lemmon" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?


> Jeff,
>
> You did an excellent job of explaining the complex interrelationships 
> among
> 2m repeaters.  However, not all 6m repeaters have a 1 MHz split; my 6m
> repeater on Tranquillon Peak follows the California band plan and has a 
> 500
> kHz split.  The duplexer has four cans about 12" in diameter and five feet
> tall.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 7:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?
>
>
> <snip>
>
> How many thousands of 2m repeaters are out there running 100 watts at 600
> kHz offset without desense? Let's be generous and say they have 100 dB of
> isolation in the duplexer. +50 dBm TPO - 100 dB = -50 dBm transmit carrier
> hitting the receiver. No big deal. And that's on 2m. The offset on 2m is
> only 0.4% (0.6 MHz / 146 MHz), whereas on 6m, it's 1.9% (1 / 53 MHz), 
> making
> isolation requirements that much more stringent on 2m.
>
> Now let's look at a 6m example. You have a 6m repeater on a 1 MHz split?
> Let's say it's on 53.99-, highest channel in the band, putting your 
> receiver
> on 52.99. Some other ham is working simplex on 52.525, using 100 watts 
> into
> a unity-gain antenna, and he's 40 miles away. His signal into your
> receiver, assuming unity gain on your end too, and line-of-sight, is -53 
> dBm
> (that's what the free-space path loss works out to: 103 dB for 40 miles on
> 6m, check my math). Would you expect this guy 40 miles away talking on 525
> to desense your repeater? If so, then you should expect *every* ham who
> transmits on 525 (or potentially any other frequency within 1 MHz of your
> receiver) within a 40 mile radius of your repeater to cause you desense;
> those that are closer than 40 miles are just going to desense it even 
> worse.
>
> <snip>
>
> --- Jeff WN3A
>
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