On 8/2/2010 11:23 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
> I do not know about Nextel, but, the US DTV signal fits into a 6 MHz 
> bandwidth.
> We use a mask filter to ensure that the bandwidth is no more than 6 MHz.
> 500 kHz from band edge<= -47 dB
> 6 MHz from band edge<= -110 dB
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV

And that's why we see noise in the -60 to -90 dBm range 1 to 2 MHz 
beyond the band edges 10-20 miles from the transmitters...
(thank god the ch2 here moved up to 17...6M is usable again!)

500 KHz from the band edge @ 47 dB down on a transmitter that is, say, 
10,000W...10KW is +70 dBm minus 47db is +23 dBm, or 200 mW. Free-space 
loss at..let's be conservative and use 860 MHz (I happen to have the 
Bird mouse pad in front of me) @ 10 mi is 115 dB. +23 minus 115 is -92 
dBm...nah, no one will hear that...free-space loss @ 150 for the same 
distance is 100 dB, my chart doesn't have 50 Mhz, but I suspect around 
90-95.

And while Nextel is better than that, because the Nextel channels are 
interspersed with other (25 KHz spacing), it causes total LOS sometimes 
as far as a mile or two from a tower. That's why they're moving them up 
to the top of the 800 band and getting normal 800 users as far away as 
possible.

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