There is no way that impedance matching can be accomplished with changing the 
length of the transmission line in a 50 ohm system when the transmission line 
used is also of the same characteristic impedance without a compensating shunt 
XC or XL stub, at a location determined on a Smith Chart plot. 
See "Electronic Applications of the Smith Chart in Waveguide, Circuit, and 
Component Analysis" by Phillip H. Smith, Chapter 9, Waveguide and Impedance 
Matching, P. 97.
 
Allan Crites  wa9zzu

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, n5qs <[email protected]> wrote:


From: n5qs <[email protected]>
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:04 PM


  



This is taken from a Wacom tuning guide
please excuse any typos
Roger

CABLE LENGTH BETWEEN TRANSMITTER AND DUPLEXER

The length of the coaxial cable between the transmitter and the duplexer might 
be a critical length with some transmitters because of an impedance mismatch. A 
mismatch condition can exist between a transmitter, cavity filter/duplexer, 
and/or antenna since all of these components can vary from an absolute 
impedance of 50 Ohms. As an example, a transmitter, or duplexer, or antenna 
will probably be listed as having a "nominal" impedance of 50 Ohms and a VSWR 
(referenced to 50 Ohms) of 1.3 to 1 or 1.5 to 1. At a VSWR of 1.5 to 1, the 
antenna , or duplexer, or antenna could have an impedance of anything from 33 
to 75 Ohms and still be within specifications. (At 1.3 to 1 VSWR, the impedance 
can be anything from 38 to 65 Ohms). In a worst-case-scenario, the transmitter 
might have an actual impedance of 33 Ohms, the duplexer 75 Ohms and the antenna 
33 Ohms. As such, system performance will be degraded and yet, all components 
will individually meet manufactures
 specifications. This impedance mismatch problem can usually be resolved by 
"optimizing" the length of coax cable between transmitter and duplexer and/or 
by installing one of the impedance-matcher PI Networks available through Wacom 
and other sources.

If a transmitter is overly sensitive to a mismatched load impedance, a variety 
of symptoms might appear, including one or more of the following:

1) The transmitter might generate numerous spurious radiations.

2) The transmitter output power might become erratic, either too high or too 
low as measured on a wattmeter.

3) The insertion loss of the duplexer might measure normal with sweep equipment 
but measure too high or too low on a wattmeter when connected to the 
transmitter.

4) The reflected power might change when the length of cable between 
transmitter and first cavity is changed.

5) Use of a ferrite isolator at output of transmitter solves the forward power 
and reflected power problem, and eliminates change in reflected power when 
length of cable between the isolator and the first cavity is changed. (In this 
instance, the ferrite isolator can be used to reveal the symptoms or as a 
solution to the problem.)

The above problems might be reduced or minimized by optimizing the length of 
cable between the transmitter and first cavity of the duplexer. The optimum 
length of cable can be found by following procedure:

1) Tune the transmitter into a 50 Ohm dummy load according to the manufacturers 
instruction.

2) Connect the duplexer to the transmitter. The transmitter output signal 
should feed through the wattmeter, then through the duplexer then into a dummy 
load. If there is an impedance mismatch the duplexer will de-tune the 
transmitter and the cable length should be optimized.

3) Using short lengths of cable (no longer than 1" @ 900 MHz, 2" @ 460 MHz, 6" 
@ 160 MHz, 24" at 40 MHz) or right angle elbow connectors, gradually increase 
the length of the cable between the transmitter and duplexer until the optimum 
length (no de-tuning effect) is found. Up to four of these short cables should 
be tried.

4) When the proper cable length is determined, i.e., when the system is 
operating as it should, replace all the short and long lengths of cables, right 
angle elbow connectors and wattmeter with one continuous length of cable of 
equivalent electrical length. Do not overlook the fact that the wattmeter was 
part of the cable length between the transmitter and duplexer during this 
process. If the wattmeter is removed from the circuit, the cable length without 
the wattmeter must be lengthened by some amount in order to be the same 
equivalent electrical length as the cable with the wattmeter in the circuit.






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