That loss is likely due to the switch to digital which is required for 
6.25 kHz bandwidth, and not a function of the bandwidth itself.

Joe M.

Andrew Seybold wrote:
> 
> 
> The FCC is re-thinking the move to 6.25 KHz based on the fact that 
> narrow band systems (and I have done a few of them) lose about 30% of 
> the existing coverage AND the NEW FCC believes that broadband is what it 
> is all about in the future—no matter that broadband cannot do simplex or 
> any of the other stuff needed for LMR and public safety.
> 
>  
> 
> And like a few others have said on here—you have to narrowband but are 
> NOT required to move to digital—P25 or anything else, I have just 
> completed several systems which use analog and we have moved them from 
> Wide to Narrow with no problems—EXCEPT the cover age problems I mentioned.
> 
>  
> 
> Andy
> 
> W6AMS
> 
> (and btw there are professional LMR folks and consultants who work with 
> this stuff every day on this list, just because we are hams too does not 
> mean that we are not in the business as well)
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Smith
> *Sent:* Friday, August 27, 2010 12:47 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 1) There is NO requirement to go digital
> 
> 2) There is NO requirement to go 6.25 KHz. Yet.
> 
>  
> 
> You can safely install an analog 12.5 KHz system and expect many years 
> of use from it. By the time 6.25 has a firm use by date, you'll be 
> looking to replace the current system anyway. Of course, you CAN use 
> something like MotoTRBO or NexEdge f you don't mind paying a bit more.
> 
>  
> 
> If this is truly an emergency type system, then you need professional 
> design help, not just from this list.
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
> KB1MGH
> 
>  
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> *From:* n5qs <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Fri, August 27, 2010 2:11:49 PM
> *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help
> 
> Chuck
> 
> Please abandon the idea of using D-Star equipment modified for non 
> amateur use.
> First this is ILLEGAL.
> 2nd there is no commercial equipment that I am aware of that is 
> compatible without modification.
> < br>I would suggest using Kenwood Nextedge technology.
> This is very similar in performance to the D-Star and has a bandwidth of 
> 6.25 KHz on a simplex radio (Mototurbo can not operate at 6.25 KHz 
> without infrastructure)
> The FCC has already stated that the 6.25 KHz bandwidth is coming they 
> just don't give any date prediction and I would not design a NEW system 
> that did not comply directly with the ability to use this bandwidth.
> 
> This is probably the most stable technology in todays market that can be 
> set up with off the shelf equipment.
> I am too far away to help but would be glad to advise any legal way that 
> I can.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Chuck Kelsey" <wb2...@... 
> <mailto:wb2...@...>> wrote:
>>
>>  I doubt that the D-Star amateur equipment (or any amateur equipment) is
>>  type-accepted for where you intend to use them.
>>
>>  Chuck
>>  WB2EDV
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "rudy_n2wq" <r_baka...@... <mailto:r_baka...@...>>
>>  To: <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>  Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:08 PM
>>  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Seeking emergency system design help
>>
>>
>>  > Hello,
>>  >
>>  > I am looking for some advice or even a systems integrator who can 
> help me
>>  > design and implement an emergency communication system for my employer,
>>  > using an off-the-shelf repeater and radios.
>>  >
>>  > My current thinking is to use D-Star radios and a D-star repeater,
>>  > modified to work on non-amateur frequencies. Since the radios will 
> be in
>>  > Manhattan, the idea is to place the repeater in our Newark, NJ 
> office and
>>  > use directional a ntennas for the repeater. We are trying to prepare 
> for
>>  > the possibility of the entire building being damaged and thus the 
> idea to
>>  > move the repeater across the river.
>>  >
>>  > 73, Rudy N2WQ
>>
> 
> 
> 
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