Hi all,

At 2020-07-28Tue16:49:22+01, dllud sent:
> […]
> I guess this is your best bet for a XMPP client.

I used to use Gajim as a desktop client but I had so many issues with it (poor 
image support; partial last-message-correction; incomplete scrollback in main 
chat; etc.) that I now don't use any client on desktop and just use Pix-Art 
Messenger on my phone. I'd rather use Pix-Art Messenger on desktop than use 
Gajim on mobile, even though I almost always prefer desktop applications for 
their compactness. Pix-Art Messenger and Conversations are very reliable 
applications, and reliability is more important to me than compactness.
        Anyway, there are other Android applications that myself and others 
would like to continue using, so let's focus on the general problem of 
reviewing the freedom of Anbox.

> As for using Android apps on GNU+Linux, it seems that Anbox is the only 
> working software available.

Right, okay.

> Both postmarketOS and UBports are using it:
> https://postmarketos.org/faq.html#will-android-apps-be-supported
> http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html

Okay, so this community usage across at least 2 distributions is likely to 
resolve any freedom issues with Anbox, if there are any.

> We are planning to port Replicant 10 (once ready) to the PinePhone.

What happened to Replicant 9? It's been at least a couple of years that the 
Replicant project has been focusing on Replicant 9 at the exclusion of 
everything else, and yet I didn't see any announcement about it.

> Perhaps you may wish to give Replicant a second try then.

Maybe, but by then I'd have probably gotten pretty well used to proper 
GNU+Linux on the PinePhone, where upstream is entirely community-driven. Why 
would I then want to switch back to a distribution of Android, attempting to 
play catch-up with Google?

> On the PinePhone we can have GPU-accelerated graphics thanks to the Lima 
> driver. That will help a lot with the user experience.

But with GNU+Linux distributions, I could use a minimalist tiling window 
manager on my phone, and not even need the GPU for most situations. 
Furthermore, the GNU+Linux distributions are just as capable of utilising the 
GPU.
        Sorry for being disheartened about Replicant itself, but despite having 
had a lot of patience for it, I've realised that corporations like Google 
deliberately introduce lots of fashionable fast-paced complicated change in 
order to make it difficult to keep up with them. I've got a whole load of 
Android hardware running old versions of Android that most applications 
nolonger support. The purpose of fashion (e.g. declaring the Holo theme 
obsolete) is to drive obsolescence, and as I both like the Holo theme and hate 
obsolescence, I've really had enough of Google's evil dictatorship.
        Anyway, it'll be quite refreshing to use a GNU+Linux distribution with 
no floating action buttons or bloated material design. It'll be very welcome to 
easily avoid Java to programme applications, as I'd much rather use Haskell, 
GForth, or whatever else. The end of my usage of Android will be the beginning 
of my unconstrained smartphone freedom.

> […]
> On 28/07/2020 10:24, J. R. Haigh wrote:
> > […]
> >     On Pix-Art Messenger's Jabber channel on Sunday evening, Anbox was 
> > recommended to me, but I don't see it in the repositories of either Debian 
> > or Guix.

Apparently it's in Debian's contrib repository, but I've not yet tried it:
https://packages.Debian.org/search?keywords=Anbox&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all

It seems that the reason that it's in contrib rather than main is the 
dependency on some core Android components: “
> This package needs Android kernel modules and rootfs image, see 
> /usr/share/doc/anbox/README.Debian for information.
” – https://packages.Debian.org/stretch-backports/anbox
Could these components be replaced with Replicant's freedom-reviewed versions?

Best regards,
James.
-- 
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