On 2017-12-25 22:25, Holger Levsen wrote:
Hi reproducible Debian folks,

I guess you have seen
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/12/msg00003.html
which lead to this on -devel:

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 06:59:21PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 11:45:37AM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > External users are invited to create an account on salsa.
> do you plan importing the current -guest accounts from alioth?
No.

For us this could mean that we'll need to ask a bunch of non-Debian people to recreate accounts on salsa.d.o, at which point I expect a lot of "why don't we
use github" questions, to which I'm not sure I have a good answer...

At risk of stirring up some of the debate that Chris mentions, I have an answer, based on some experience:

- Github is proprietary, so we can not properly assess what is being done to/with the repos, or who is doing it. - to make promises about the integrity of content at Github, we would be wise to maintain independent external mirrors of what we care about, and react to any attempt to re-write blessed branch histories in upstreams that we believe or need to be well-behaved.

GitLab, being opencore, appears to avoid the proprietary problem and provides some excellent workflow tools. Even with GitLab I would still recommend keeping independent mirrors of all sources and watching for signs of tampering. We've been doing this for some time with the git.baserock.org repositories, for example.

br
Paul

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