On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Bonnie Corwin wrote:

> Mike Kupfer wrote On 10/28/05 11:52,:
>> dp> ARC interns are (afaik) already experienced engineers.
>> Yes, and they usually have non-trivial ARC experience, either as a
>> fast-track licensee or from multiple project submissions.  I think that
>> translates into some minimum set of requirements to be a sponsorship
>> intern, which may well be higher than the proposed tier-3 requirements.
>> I don't know what those minimum requirements should be.  How experienced
>> does someone have to be to be a SunVisor to a new employee?  Is SunVisor
>> even a good comparison point?
>> dp> I'm adding a big +1 to what Dave has said thus far; he has made, to
>> dp> me anyway, a persuasive argument that building mentorships,
>> dp> relationships, skills and knowledge is the core task here.
>> That makes sense to me, too.
> So I think we have cycled back to where we started and where we
> currently are: two tiers of sponsors with requirements for both tiers.
> If we leave the current program alone and don't open it up, how do we
> address the problem of requests not getting picked up in a reasonable
> amount of time?

This came up at PAC & I spoke up: Right now, there is no ownership
or responsibility for sponsors to pick things up.  It's above & beyond
the already above & beyond we are all doing.  There are no goals around
this, or management ownership.  Without ownership, all programs in Sun
flounder.  I brought this up when it was originally suggested that
CRTs act as sponsors.  Much as I predicted, things are falling through
the cracks.

Have I been asked once by management why I haven't sponsored anything?
Nope. (the reason I haven't is due to the sheer volume of work being
a tech lead already entails, but I still haven't been asked).

Unless there are metrics that are enforced, and you make a director
actually *own* something, it won't happen.

We have a hard enough time getting people to fix serious bugs
unless we go to the director level.

Solaris Security Technologies,  Developer
ON10 Update1 Tech Lead. Sun Microsystems, Inc.
17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. 650-786-0461

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