> On May 18, 2015, 10:04 p.m., Joris Van Remoortere wrote:
> > 3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/tests/flags_tests.cpp, line 511
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/34193/diff/2/?file=963014#file963014line511>
> >
> >     Since we're in an implementation file, we can `using 
> > std::ostringstream;` and then just use `ostringstream` here.
> 
> Marco Massenzio wrote:
>     do I have to?
>     I don't particularly like the `using` thing (although appreciate its 
> usefulness) and avoid using (ha, a pun!) it unless the type is used in 
> several places, in which case, the gain is significant.
> 
> Joris Van Remoortere wrote:
>     I'm not sure if we have an explicit rule here for this. I just know if 
> someone else comes to review this code, they will point out the same thing. 
> Let's just go with consistency.
> 
> Marco Massenzio wrote:
>     I'm not sure I follow the logic here, Joris - I'll go along with it, as 
> an extra 20 keystrokes or so are not something I want to make a big issue 
> about, but it seems warped; I also note here, that I'm adding the `using` 
> clause some several 100's lines above where it's used, and that goes against 
> the whole concept of readability.
> 
> Marco Massenzio wrote:
>     BTW - just came across this:
>     ```
>         std::string pad(PAD + width - line.size(), ' ');
>         line += pad;
>     
>         size_t pos1 = 0, pos2 = 0;
>         // ...
>         while (pos2 != std::string::npos) {  
>     ```
>     in flags.hpp - so it would appear that using namespace-scoped variables 
> if just fine (at least in Stout)?
>     IMO this only makes sense if you use the same type/variable several times 
> and/or typing up the full namespace is tedious: `std::` is actually pretty 
> low overhead.
> 
> Michael Park wrote:
>     Our style guide isn't unclear on the use of `using`. But regarding the 
> following statement:
>     > in flags.hpp - so it would appear that using namespace-scoped variables 
> if just fine (at least in Stout)?
>     
>     This is because `flags.hpp` is a header file. It's very bad practice to 
> use `using` declarations in a header file, since anything that includes it 
> will implicitly inherit the declarations. Esepcially in a library header like 
> `stout` which is included pretty much everywhere. Note that Joris qualified 
> his statement with: "Since we're in an implementation file"
>     
>     I personally don't have strong opinions about this. However, looking 
> through the rest of the codebase, at least for `std::ostringstream` in 
> particular, there are 9 cases where we do `using std::ostringstream;` and 
> refer to `ostringstream` only once.
>     
>     ```
>     src/exmaples/persistent_volume_framework.cpp
>     src/linux/perf.cpp
>     src/log/tool/benchmark.cpp
>     src/log/tool/initialize.cpp
>     src/log/tool/read.cpp
>     src/log/tool/replica.cpp
>     src/slave/containerizer/isolators/cgroups/mem.cpp
>     src/slave/containerizer/isolators/network/port_mapping.cpp
>     src/tests/isolator_tests.cpp
>     ```
>     
>     As opposed to 3 instances of `std::ostringstream` being referenced once 
> in the file.
>     
>     ```
>     3rdparty/libprocess/src/pid.cpp
>     3rdparty/libprocess/src/process.cpp
>     3rdparty/libprocess/src/tests/http_tests.cpp
>     ```
>     
>     The review comments in the past from folks have been to declare the 
> `using` at the top (albeit not formalized), so I would err on that side in 
> this case. Our standard approach is to: follow what at least seems to be 
> majority in the codebase, come up with a concrete style guide (e.g. "used in 
> several places" -- how many is several?) and create a JIRA ticket for the 
> consistent update around the codebase.

So, you went through all that trouble, how about just looking a few lines down 
[L597](https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=mesos.git;a=blob;f=3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/tests/flags_tests.cpp;h=00281195b53d2597bdb46e3fe6cd9d46a5e9b1f1;hb=f1b3c095ef96bc2f1e2f3698ab4eb0413acef4fa#l597):
```
Option<std::string> something;
```
or L574:
```
JSON::Object nested;
```
How are those examples less relevant than what you found elsewhere?
Or should we agree that both approaches are valid; neither is preferable; and 
trying to be "consistent" *in this particular instance* is immaterial?


- Marco


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On May 19, 2015, 10:31 p.m., Marco Massenzio wrote:
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> 
> (Updated May 19, 2015, 10:31 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for mesos, Benjamin Hindman and Joris Van Remoortere.
> 
> 
> Bugs: MESOS-2711
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2711
> 
> 
> Repository: mesos
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> Jira: MESOS-2711
> 
> Every program that uses stout's `BaseFlags` ends up
> re-implementing the `printUsage()` function, and adding
> a `bool help` (and associated --help flag); this functionality
> has now been refactored in the base class and is available everywhere.
> 
> This change attempts to be backward-compatible, so it
> does not alter the behavior of the program when --help is
> invoked (by, eg, automatically printing usage and exiting)
> but leaves up to the caller to check for `flags.help` and then
> decide what action to take.
> 
> There is now a default behavior for the "leader" ("Usage: <prog name> 
> [options]")
> but the client API allows to modify that too.
> 
> Note - anywhere I found the use of the `--help` flag the behavior was the 
> same: 
> print usage and exit (see also https://reviews.apache.org/r/34195).
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/include/stout/flags/flags.hpp 
> fb383b463a99924483634eebf22bf34de318f920 
>   3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/tests/flags_tests.cpp 
> 00281195b53d2597bdb46e3fe6cd9d46a5e9b1f1 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/34193/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> make check
> 
> **NOTE** this change by itself breaks the build, because the --help is 
> redefined everywhere (16 places, as of last count): CL 34195 fixes that and 
> makes all build/tests pass.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Marco Massenzio
> 
>

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