No offense, but SLES also supports microsoft. Does that make it right?


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Subject: Re: [rhelv5-beta-list] Re: rhel5 latest kernel and ipw3945 DROPPED??

Johnny Hughes,
Sparc/Chocolate Ice Cream ....
we are talking about 1 wireless card here. SLED/Ubuntu support this card 
RHEL does not.
End of discussion.

Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 11:55 +0100, Grant Williamson wrote:
>   
>> When you are deploying linux to the laptop user, and have to add/support 
>> many additional drivers it's a different story.
>> Yes one can argue that its the hardware vendors fault, and you should 
>> complain to them. The reality is we live in a Microsoft world(like 
>> nobody knew that).
>>
>> I just wished that RedHat were able to provide these proprietary 
>> drivers, and not rely on 3rd party sites(it's hardy enterprise). There 
>> are always ways to work around IP issues.
>>
>>     
>
> They do provide support for things on the Hardware Compatibility
> List ... where that will NOT be.
>
> Do you complain that Windows 2003 Server will not install on a Sparc
> T2000 machine with a T1 processor?
>
> Do you buy chocolate ice cream from a manufacturer who doesn't make
> vanilla ice cream and then complain that you are allergic to chocolate?
>
> If hardware vendors will not make their drivers open source ... and if
> you insist on using their products which are not on the HCL (and not
> moving to vendors who do use open source and are on the HCL) then YOU
> are the problem.  YOU, not Red Hat, are enabling the situation.
>
> This issue is absolutely market driven.  If people would contact the
> vendor, require that they provide a workable driver or make them refund
> the purchase price and stop settling for closed source binary shit then
> this situation would be fixed ... failing that, if you use a product not
> on the HCL, you are on your own.
>
> RHEL 5 is not made to install on there, they removed it from the kernel
> because they do not support it.  If you want a supported Enterprise
> solution, buy items on the HCL.
>
> I don't understand why this is such a hard issue to comprehend.
>
> Maybe I am just too dense?
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