Tom,

>On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 17:00 -0700, Collins, Kevin [MindWorks] wrote:
>> Tom,
>> 
>>      this works great for "login" sessions, but it doesn't work for
>> crond and rshd so I still have the problem!
>
>Well, like I said, I hadn't really found a way to do this globally with
>no exceptions, although I hadn't tried very hard.  I'm curious, why is
>cron a problem?  Why can't you just put the _UNIV_DEFAULT 
>setting in the
>crontab file itself?  Does it have to work for everybody without them
>knowing to do anything special?  Is that the issue?

It would be nice, but it isn't a requirement... and, yes, I can add the
_AST_FEATURES variable to root's crontab (no other users have cron
access).

>> Actually, I found /etc/security/pam_env.conf which should 
>work for all
>> pam-enabled services, but it doesn't seem to work for either crond or
>> rshd.
>
>Yeah, that looks like it should work.  Both cron and rsh appear to
>properly call pam_env.  It's interesting that it didn't.  I'll try to
>set it up on our test server tomorrow just to verify your results.

I actually found a report of a bugfix in FC6 for rshd NOT correctly
loading the pam_env and the revision of rshd is one higher than what is
in RHEL5 (rsh-server-0.17-38 vs rsh-server-0.17-37).

>> I tried re-building the RPM from SRPM and defining 
>_UNIV_DEFAULT=att in
>> the CCFLAGS, but it still defaults to ucb. 
>
>Yeah, I don't think that would do it.  In a quick glance at the source
>it would appear that you would have to patch one of the files. 
> It looks
>like the script which builds libast decides if /bin/echo exist, and
>doesn't support escaped backslashes by default, to default to ucb.
>
>Here is a small snippet from ksh-20060214/src/lib/libast/features/lib:
>
>tst     cross{
>        u=att
>        case `/bin/cat -s /dev/null/foo 2>&1` in
>        '')     ;;
>        *)      case `/bin/echo '\\t'` in
>                '\t')   u=ucb ;;
>                esac
>                ;;
>        esac
>        echo "#define _UNIV_DEFAULT     \"$u\"  /* default 
>universe name
>*/"
>}end
>
>A simple patch to this file to force the 'u' variable to att 
>is probably
>all that's required.

I found that too - I was hoping that the define might override it. Maybe
I'll figure out how to patch the SRPM.

>> *Sigh* - I really just want a solution that works...
>
>What's wrong with the symlink in /usr/local/bin?  Is it the 
>concern over
>scripts messing with the path?  If so, the next best thing is probably
>the echo wrapper scripts, although that will be a support annoyance.

The symlink doesn't work when someone uses rsh to execute a script,
because there is no "login" so the path is only set to /bin:/usr/bin...
This is actually my biggest concern because most of our scripts are
executed via rsh.

Kevin

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