On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 13:34 -0400, Alheid, Gregory wrote:
> Well that is the issue, how do I find out if they are needed.

Assuming you have no third party packages, you can just start removing
them, it's unlikely you'll have any trouble.  We ran into an issue where
we had some software that we compiled from source back int he RHEL3 days
that died once we removed the old openssl stuff and another that died
after we removed the old imlib.  We had to upgrade/recompile this
software from newer versions to use the newer libraries included in
RHEL5.  If you don't have any of this at all your probably pretty clear.

I guess the only way you'll know is to remove them and see what breaks,
but looking at the package list you provided I'd guess you want have too
many issues.

> Using KSH as an example, just removing the  pdksh  RPM would
> be is an issue since I'm a user of ksh. I did find the new
> RHEL-5 KSH RPM, ksh-20060214-1.7.x86_64, so I was able to
> removed the RHEL-4 RPM and installed the new RPM.

If you see something that you know you use, you'll have to go look for a
replacement/upgrade.  The KSH package is an example.  To be totally
honest, I think they should have made ksh "obsolete" pdksh so that it
was automatically upgraded rather than having to deal with it manually
after the fact but instead it's listed as "conflict".

> > Here's a link to a Redhat KB article that touches on it:
> 
> > http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_103_10686.shtm
> 
> On reviewing the URL given, it indicates to run the  yum list extra
> command. This shows all the RHEL-4 RPMs plus the three IBM Tivoli RPMs.

Right, the URL was given as an example to show that it's a normal issue.
Notice the line "This will list the packages installed on the system
that are not available in any yum repository listed in the config file,
showing what is 'left over' from the previous version of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux"

The command actually shows any packages not available via a yum
repository (like many third party packages).  Unfortunately having some
old, obsolete packages left over after an upgrade is just a normal side
effect of the process which you, as an administrator, have to deal with.
It's just like going through and looking at all of the .rpmsave/.rpmorig
files that are left hanging around and merging any changes that you want
into you old config files.

Later,
Tom


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