On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 10:00 +0900, Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer) wrote:
> Thanks all for the comments.
> 
> Citing security concerns really doesn't work with people that don't see 
> what's so bad about telnet...
> 
> The Solaris admins look for any excuse not to replace Solaris with Linux.  
> This screen unlocking is just one example.  There are 8 Solaris admins vs 2 
> Linux admins.
> 
> Switching to VT1 then killing kdesktop_lock is considered too hard.

The root unlock definitely needs to work in your situation.
Killing the processes of a desktop user that may have hours or days of
unsaved work that could easily be saved by someone needed to do
maintenance will get you guys a kicking for sure. The "you were told
about this" approach just isn't good enough when your a service
department and those "other" systems do it just fine!

> 
> I'm log an SR with RedHat and take it from there.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> CC
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2008 9:17 AM
> > To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list
> > Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] RE: Enable root to unlock screen
> > saver (KDE)
> >
> > Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:rhelv5-list-
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield
> > >> Coe, Colin C. (Unix Engineer) wrote:
> > >>> Hi and thanks for the response.
> > >>>
> > >>> I should have stated more clearly that we use KDE not Gnome.  The
> > >> reason for this is the oil & gas apps that our
> > workstations users' use
> > >> work best under KDE not Gnome so to keep things standard,
> > we use KDE
> > >> everywhere.
> > >>> On my workstation, I see these two processes:
> > >>> me        8220  7283  0 15:49 ?        00:00:00
> > >> /usr/bin/kdesktop_lock --forcelock
> > >>> me        8221  8220  0 15:49 ?        00:00:00
> > >> /usr/bin/kblankscrn.kss -root
> > >>> There is no gnome-screensaver process.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have tried just using the root password to unlock the
> > screen saver
> > >> but this doesn't work.
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> CC
> > >>>
> > >> try marking one or both of those binaries setuid root and
> > see whether
> > >> it
> > >> works.
> > >>
> > >> Then, you can
> > >> 1. Deploy systems that way
> > >> or
> > >> 2. Tell the SUN users it's a security issue and the gods
> > will not allow
> > >> it.
> > >
> > > Or just tell the SUN users to follow these steps:
> > > 1) CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a console
> > > 2) Login as root
> > login as whomever
> > startx :2
> > > 3) killall -9 kdesktop_lock
> > > 4) CTRL-F7 to get back to the desktop.
> >
> > X is usually on tty13 on my systems:-)
> >
> > On reflection, interfering with another user's session is particularly
> > bad form. I'm not sure my policies would permit it. The
> > "unlock" screen
> > should allow user switching.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Cheers
> > John
> >
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