On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, John Summerfield wrote:

I've never used RHEL so I don't _know_ what the support arrangements are, but it seems to me time to bang some heads together. I gather from what others have said, you have an account rep from RH, and I expect you
 also have one at IBM.

I like the idea of "asking" them to go away and sort it out jointly lest they hear more, very cross, words.

One of the ideas of EL distros, I thought, was to ensure problems such as this do not arise.

Right, the only way to get out of these problems is to make vendors accountable for the complexities they create. Which often means to report them, and press on these issues whenever you get a chance.

Much too often I have seen system engineering departements accept the incompatibilities and complexities that software vendors impose. I have seen situations where it was impossible to have needed hardware and software in a supported configuration on a single system because of multiple vendors having restricted support rules.

Also often the documentation that ships (or is found on websites) simply does not get updated on subsequent kernel releases because the operational 'system' to keep in sync with what is used *after* the product ships, is simply missing. And support desks strictly follow the documentation they have and nobody cares about software updates (or internal strict QA rules are impossible to comply with to even bother).

Pragmatism ofcourse requires you to find a solution at hand, and not bother about stressing your own problems to vendors. But escalating is the *only* way to create awareness and accountability.

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