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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:49, you wrote:
> ANNOUNCEMENTS and ARTICLES: http://pnews.org/art/art.shtml
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>
> In a message dated 4/12/2004 12:08:34 PM Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> they have the
> Intifada and this insurgency will never go away as long as Israelis and
> Jews like you fail to see the other side of justice.  It was not a country
> without a people and those people were Palestinians.
<snip>
> East!!!  (Like the Watts riots in the 60's when the Blacks destroyed their
> own people's stores, the "Palestinians" are hurting themselves more than
> they are hurting Israel!
> http://www.danielpipes.org/article/994)  Just for the record, it is not
> just "Jews like me" who are aware of these facts; millions of Christians
> (and even some Arabs -- have you ever read anything by Joseph Farrah?  If
> you haven't, you should!)

Ever read anything by Salem Kirban, Dafna?  He sounds right up your ... um,
alley.

<snip>
>
> Here is some genuine history for you.  There was NEVER an independent
> country called "Palestine" (Jews and Arabs living under the Mandate
> government were British subjects and traveled under a British passport)!

Here's history for you, Dafna.  In at least two separate Mandates - (former
German) New Guinea, and Western Samoa, the people living there were NOT
considered British subjects, instead British Protected Persons.
http://www.archives.govt.nz/exhibitions/citizenship/subjects6_text.html
Subjects or Suspects?
 "New Zealand administered Western Samoa under a League of Nations mandate,
and so it was not considered "British soil". Samoans were "British protected
persons", who did not enjoy the full rights of British subjects. Under New
Zealand law, they could not be naturalised as they were not living in New
Zealand."

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/British nationality law
for pointers on this troublesome matter.

Under the relevant law, they were permitted to travel using the relevant
British travel documents.  Technically not "Passports", but serving the same
purpose.  Considering Palestine was a Class 'A' Mandate and technically due
for independence in a matter of years, I can't see any valid reason why the
British would've granted British nationality to anyone living or settling in
Palestine.

And just for the sake of kicking the idiot where it hurts - on the subject of
occupation we have:
http://aotearoa.wellington.net.nz/pasif/mau.htm
Mau Movement
"From 1926 antagonism grew amongst Samoans against the New Zealand Fono a
Faipule (The Samoan native advisory body); official involvement by the
administering authority in produce marketing; heavy handed, intrusive
administrative interference in village affairs; discriminatory attitudes
towards part-Europeans by New Zealand officials; and the continued desire by
Samoan leaders for self-government according to Samoan tradition. A movement
formed called the Mau which means opinion and implies self-determination by
the people."

>
> Arabs didn't call themselves "Palestinians" until Arafat started the PLO in
> 1964

Amazing.  You know, Dafna, the Iraqis and Yemeni and Algerians and Moroccans
and Egyptians STILL DON'T CALL THEMSELVES PALESTINIANS!!!  WHAT ARE WE DOING
WRONG, Dafna?
;)
<snip>
  Another fact that you're
> choosing to ignore is that most of the land that you incorrectly call
> "territories" not only wasn't a separate country, it was empty and barren
> until the Jews came and built it up, just like they did in the rest of
> Israel.  In addition, more "Palestinians" have immigrated to the "West
> Bank" in the last 40 years from outside of Israel than Jews have!

Put one man together with one woman, leave them alone for a number of cold,
lonely nights, and eventually there's a Palestinian immigrant.  A rather
small immigrant, admittedly, but the recipe's infallible.  You should try it
some time, Dafna.
;)
>
> The most important point is this: IF THE "PALESTINIANS" HAD REALLY WANTED
> THEIR OWN COUNTRY NEXT TO ISRAEL WHERE THEY COULD LIVE IN PEACE AND RAISE
> THEIR FAMILIES, THEY COULD HAVE HAD IT ALREADY ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS!  BUT,
> THEY DON'T WANT A COUNTRY IN ADDITION TO ISRAEL; THEY WANT ONE IN PLACE OF
> ISRAEL AND THAT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

Bullsh*^.  All they want is to return home.  If E.T.'s allowed to return home,
why can't the Palestinians?
<snip>
>
> Dafna Yee, director
> JWD - Jewish Watch Dog
> http://jwd-jewishwatchdog.home.comcast.net
>
<snip>
Something about a bark being worse than a bite occurs to me, but I ... oh,
well, just let it go ...

--
Wesley Parish
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You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."

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