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> From: Dave Kersting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:10 am
> Subject: Re: [PI Issues] ZION
> 
> "The divinity of Zion calls for justice and the slaughter of those
> liars who call themselves 'Zionists' and have brought abomination into
> the promised land."
>
> See:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PalestinianIsraeliIssues/message/4184

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Kersting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Let's try to help Mr. Kersting

    Now Mike please; I have told you before: do not sent your harassment
and hate speech to this email address. Please remember; there are laws
to control that kind of behavior here.

    I don't think you care about the difference between constructive
discussion and mere invective, so this time I must ask you to send
nothing more at all to this email address.

    Best wishes.   

Dave Kersting

---------------------------------------------

Kersting, the hate-monger and master of counter-productive character
assassination and vile dishonest vilification projects his defects on
others. This is nothing unusual. Here Kersting refers to "laws" he hints
he could invoke to suppress my responses to his vicious attacks. OK I
can write in other venues and if he doesn't want me to write to him I
voluntarily refrain.

Kersting calling the kettle... Well, you know the rest. Unable to
extricate himself from his hate speech and advocacy of "slaughter,"
unwilling to match my call for equality world-wide, frustrated by all of
this, Dave Kersting - who wrote to me repeatedly - whines that I wrote
back and called him on his lies. I've seen some astonishing hypocrisy on
the internet, but this takes the cake.

To review: Kersting called for the "slaughter" of anyone in Israel who
supports the right of Israel to exist. Kersting dishonestly denied
making this blood-thirsty comment, so I quoted him.

Kersting is splitting hair anyway, as he defends the Nazis and claims
the Holocaust was just self- defense by the Nazis against those "uppity
Jews" Kersting terms "Zionazionists."

Kersting claims Zionism and Nazism are identical because to his ear they
"sound alike." He also champions the long ago debunked libel known as
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

Kersting accused me of making racist comments, but when I challenged him
to quote one, he ran away making vague complaints that demanding such
proof was "harassment and hate speech."

Note: Kersting wrote to ME first and several times thereafter, and
explicitly welcomed my replies, until I rubbed his nose in his quote
about "slaughter" which he'd hoped to deny. 

The moral of the story: stand up to bullies and their dishonest abuse.
DO not take the path of Least resistance else Neo-Nazis, haters, bigots
of every kind will only exploit our reluctance to Confront their lies
with the truth.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Kersting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: FW: Let's try to help Mr. Hersh
> 
> Mr. Kersting lies: "I declare it again: I stand for full equality and
> human rights between all people, including the Jews and Arabs of 
> Israel-Palestine."
> 
> Mr. Kersting, no you don't. You're a liar and a hater. Maybe you can
> delude yourself but you cannot fool those of us who've read your 
> unmitigated hate.
> 
> Mr. Kersting lies: "This position, consistent with all I have ever
> said, now supercedes any sick Zionist interpretation."
> 
> Your "consistent position" is that you blame Jewish people for nearly
> all the ills of the world, endorse the debunked fraud called "The 
> Protocols of the Elders of Zion," demonize all Jewish (and other) 
> people who support Israel's existence as "Nazionazis" and even call 
> for their "slaughter."
> 
> You can deny you wrote: "The divinity of Zion calls for justice and
> the slaughter of those liars who call themselves 'Zionists' and have 
> brought abomination into the promised land." You can deny that by 
> "Zionist" you mean any Israeli who supports the existence of the State

> of Israel. It doesn't matter. Your words are there on the net for all 
> to see.
> 
> Labeling someone a "Zionist" and denying the truth cannot protect you
> from your own comments. You made them. Your call for the mass-murder 
> of innocents remains in plain sight. I quoted it verbatim. There is 
> nothing "sick" or any "interpretation" of your comments. No, rather 
> your comments, your hatred, your monomania and your denial are all 
> "sick."
> 
> Mr. Kersting again lies: "The first quote offered by Mr. Hersh, below,
> about "the divinity of Zion," was never said by me. It sounds like 
> something from Orthodox Jews who share my opinion of Zionist 
> corruption."
> 
> You can deny you "said" that, but you clearly did WRITE that. Not as a
> quote from any "Orthodox Jews." You offered this call for murder as 
> your own views. You posted that to the Palestinian/Israeli Issues 
> group at the url I gave. We can all follow the link and see your 
> comments. Here they are again:
> 
> From: Dave Kersting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:10 am
> Subject: Re: [PI Issues] ZION
> 
> "The divinity of Zion calls for justice and the slaughter of those
> liars who call themselves 'Zionists' and have brought abomination into

> the promised land."
> 
> See:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PalestinianIsraeliIssues/message/4184
> 
> Mr. Kersting admits: "I did not bother to read further into Mr.
> Hersh's miasma of projected guilt."
> 
> Of course you didn't "bother to read further." Perhaps you don't want
> to see how clearly we see you with all your hate and calls for 
> "slaughter?" Of course there's no way you could honestly characterize 
> my comments as a "miasma of projected guilt" if you didn't even read 
> it! More lies, typical of Neo-Nazi illness. This as much as anything 
> else demonstrates that everything Neo-Nazis spew emerges whole from 
> their internal dementia - untouched by facts, reason or reality. How 
> pathetic.
> 
> Mr. Kersting exposes his obsession with Israel and Jews, trying to
> change the subject from his blood-thirsty hatred to me: "And if Mr. 
> Hersh can say the same thing now - that he supports full equality, 
> including the complete elimination of all religious and ethnic 
> prejudice in the policies of a reformed Israel-Palestine - then we 
> should kindly applaud his recovery from his old openly-racist ways."
> 
> Poor Mr. Kersting! You don't know the first thing about "full
> equality," although you are an adept practitioner of "religious and 
> ethnic prejudice." Unlike you, I support equality, self-determination 
> and freedom for everyone everywhere. In Israel AND in the wider world.
> 
> You are obsessed, controlled by your hatred of a few million human
> beings who happen to be Jewish and support the right of Israel to 
> exist. Yes, Mr. Kersting, those you call "cattle" and "pigs" are 
> actually human beings just like you, your parents, and your friends - 
> if you have any.
> 
> I predicted you'd fastidiously deny making your past comments and hope
> we'd be too slow to notice. You proved you are as predictable as you 
> are vicious. In the end, your sort of villainy always reveals itself 
> as oddly banal for all its sick and hideous character.
> 
> We're wise to you, Mr. Kersting. You have no power here.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hersh <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:50 PM
> Subject: [PI Issues] Neo-Nazi Jew-hater Dave Kersting's rants prove my
> points
> 
> This is very long, so try to bear with me. I wrote last time about how
> Neo-Nazi Jew-hater Dave Kersting hates Jewish people, denies their 
> humanity, and in a "Final Solution" vein compares the Jewish people to

> cattle awaiting slaughter. Last March and previously, I exposed the 
> true face of David Kersting using his own words (and these are just a 
> few of those self incriminating words)

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