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From: Bob le D�plorable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Ok, this is thus my contribution.

    Well, regarding a post on "rhetoric", it is up to you to see if this
message is worth its diffusion. Primarily, I just intended to inform the
author of the referred post - and yourself, of course - about some
information relevant to him, but I am not sure that this european stuff is
relevant to most of your readers...

 So, feel free to forward it or not!

  (but I anyway agree to be subscribed to this group, of course!)

    Cordially

    Louis

Re: Conspiracy Blame Game


    You will maybe be interested in knowing that a fascinating documentary
film called "Op�ration Lune" was produced a few years ago by one of the
best european documentarists, the Frenchman William Karel (well-known for
his "History of the Extreme-Right", a three-hour "History of the CIA", a
three-hour "The Men in the White-House", and, very recently [May 2004],
"The Bush' World", which is, in my opinion, quite better than what Michael
Moore does, because Karel does not enter in polemics and subjective
arguments). In "Op�ration Lune", Karel "proves" that the films on the Moon
were in fact done by Kubrick, who had later to hide himself in Great
Britain in order to save his life, while other participants were
mysteriously killed by the "conspiracists". Many famous people
participates in the film, including Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Gen. Haig,
ex-directors of CIA like Vernon Walters and so on. Just at the end of the
generic, Karel explains that all is fake, just done with a very
professional and intelligent "cutting" of ruhshes from his histories of
CIA and of the White House's men... plus a few archives and some actors
playing "ordinary people".

    The demonstration is superb... but terrifying : it proves mainly that
anybody willing to manipulate the opinion may do so very easily and
convincingly....


    Cordially yours

    Louis


    PS All Karel's films, in my knowledge, are produced by Arte (the
French-German state-owned cultural TV channel) and/or FR2 (rhe state-owned
French channel). About "Op�ration Lune", so, you may, maybe, find
additional material on their Websites (www.arte-tv.com or www.fr2.fr if I
remember correctly)



> Conspiracy Blame Game
>
>
> My son told me about this one, that Neil Armstrong never really walked on
> the moon in 1969. The conspiracists say the radiation would have killed
> them. But the conspiracists say NASA and the government knew we were
> losing the space race with the Soviets and faking Apolo 11 was one way to
> get funding and rally the masses behind the project.  Instead of going to
> the moon, they went to some secret base under the Nevada desert.

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