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This was the link Professor Kent provided to the Hollings statement. There
are several things he said, which doesn't have much to do with your
comments but are pertinent to his remarks. He, like so many other
Democrats supported the war; that is, he voted to give Bush authorization
to go to war in contradiction of the Constitution which requires going to
war to be determined by the Congress, not a decision they can waive or
delegate to the president. With the separation of powers (and Separation
of Powers Act) this violation of law should have been determined to be
illegal by the courts, but they (the courts) did not interfere, because
they are political courts.
It is a violation which should lead to impeachment, not
only of the president, but should result in removal of those who supported
the abrogation of law, including John Kerry - who is a terrible choice to
replace Bush and Nader is being slammed and every excuse is being used,
rightly or wrongly - but he is still a better man. That is not important
because they're all bad.
As far I am aware, he (Hollings) and others (with the exception
of a very few) still support the war "because we are there" and that is a
continuation of an illegality.
However Hollings made another statement wherein he said Bush failed with
his Mideast policy because he want to war to make a democracy in Iraq
because it would help Israel. Whether or not he is right or wrong is
unimportant, I believe, because he has been wrong before -- but there is
that possiblity, given the stated objectives of Perle that the motivation
was there to do something in the region would become a catylst for
changing the region, making it more propitious to negotiate with Israel
and it was though a democracy might do that -- though I doubt it would
make much difference in the end because of the prejudices of those who
would be the "new" democrats.
It was not something I am certain Israel, if asked, would approve of.
Israel would know if Iraq had WMD and officials there have stated that
they didn't. So Bush is an idiot. Either he went along with Perle and a
stupid policy which was contrary to the facts simply because he wanted to
be re-elected or Perle was the grand orchestrator of a big scam - and I
don't really believe that. I think the simple and the most logical
answer is Bush is an idiot and that is the real answer -
pure and simple.
Hank
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Wesley Parish wrote:
>
> Well, Hank, you have my sympathy for the forthcoming election.
>
> (The stupid thing about "Democracy" and "Middle Eastern culture" is that
> hardly anybody in Washington appears to understand Democracy in the
> first place, let alone the culture of the Middle East. So they don't
> understand how American democracy grew out of some British traditions
> brought over on the Mayflower etc, let alone how those traditions grew
> and developed in Britain itself - or how different those traditions were
> from the Greek traditions which showed up in Athens becoming the "First
> Democracy" ... etc.
>
> So they've got no understanding how to nurture the basic traditions that any
> healthy human culture will have, in order to make Democracy flourish.
>
> Drongos, the lot of them.)
>
> Shalom
>
> Wesley Parish
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