Scott--
"I guess by your question you would _support_ the "death to Israel" threats 
then, hm?

This was not called for.  Vindictive.  Is that how you want to be seen?  If so, 
you are acheiving your goal.  You can't get any closer to "poison and hatred" 
than your response to me.

Wendy

Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:14:08 -0800, Wendy wrote:

>I have a couple questions. If the movie shows a Palestinian girl whose eyes 
>were removed, and it's propaganda, what do you suppose happened to her eyes?

Surely you're not serious? Or are you suggesting that the Iranian TV show is 
basically _correct_ in it's accusations? Did it ever occur to you that the 
little girl is an _actress_ simply filmed with bandages on her eyes? Unreal.

>Of those people who are screaming "death to Israel" or that they want to drive 
>the Jews into the sea, what do you think would cause them to say that?

Sheer, unadulterated, irrational _hatred_ of the other (in this case the other, 
as in many cases throughout history, is the Jew), better known in this case as 
anti-Semitism. I guess by your question you would _support_ the "death to 
Israel" threats then, hm?

>If you think that any concessions should not be made by Israel because you're 
>sure it will be seen as a sign of weakness, what do you think Israel should do 
>instead?

I didn't see Garth as having stated that no concessions should be made. He 
simply _questioned_ whether the Palestinians would view those concessions as 
weakness, something I have brought up a few times on this list myself. As to 
what I think Israel should do, (I know you didn't ask me, but that is the 
"danger" of posting to a public list), I think Israel should _completely_ pull 
out of the West Bank and Gaza, if for no other reason than to show the 
Palestinian's intransigence, because it is my view that if the Palestinians got 
everything they "want" including a viable state, but excluding Israel's total 
destruction (and believe me, that is what they _truly_ want), they would NOT 
cease their intolerable attacks (esp. against civilians).

Here's a question: As an example, why do you think Jews, for instance, didn't 
resort to "suicide" bombers against the Nazi's during WWII? Why didn't Black 
South Africans resort to these tactics? Why didn't Native Americans, and in 
fact aboriginal peoples the world over resort to bombing civilians? Why does it 
seem to be only Muslims who have resorted to this response,(in Israel and now 
Iraq and elsewhere)?

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"Some minds remain open long
enough for the truth not only
to enter but to pass on through
by way of a ready exit without
pausing anywhere along the
route." - Sister Elizabeth
Kenny, Australian nurse
(1886-1952).


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>Garth Cartledge wrote:
>By way of illustration of what I have been saying about creating an atmosphere 
>in which the Israelis and Palestinians can resolve their issues I was sent the 
>following information in relation to an Iranian television programme. You 
>could only get away with this poisonous filth in a country which has 
>suppressed free speech or, in countries where there is free speech, with 
>people who are so devoid of a capacity of critical thinking (whether through 
>education, congenitally or unquestioning acceptance of narrow bigotted 
>propaganda) that they accept it without questioning.
>

Scott

All that is necessary for Evil to triumph,
is for good people to do nothing.

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