Sorry, I don't think I understand...
a) Are you saying that there will always be other endpoints?
b)
I need to define in my application something like this?
public class Something : ConsumerOf<AdministrativeMessage> {
public void Consume(AdministrativeMessage m) {
//nothing to do here
}
}
On Jan 19, 3:20 pm, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> a) you assume that there are other end points.b) make sure that you have
> message owners defined for the bus' messages, that will handle the
> subscriptions.
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, chrisortman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think why I am getting confused is that whatever bus i use to Send|
> > Notify|Publish should be an implicit subscriber since it can consume
> > its own messages. Otherwise I can't see why to use Notify|Publish if
> > there are no other endpoints.
>
> > On Jan 19, 2:05 pm, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > No, because discarded messages are for _arriving_ messages.
>
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM, chrisortman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Currently when doing IServiceBus.Notify(message) nothing happens if
> > > > there are no subscribers.
> > > > Should this also generate a discarded message?
>
> > > > On Jan 19, 11:04 am, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > That is an extremely common approach.
> > > > > For that matter, here is the real configuration behind the NH Prof
> > > > website:
>
> > > > > <castle>
>
> > > > > <facilities>
>
> > > > > <facility id="rhino.esb" >
>
> > > > > <bus threadCount="1"
>
> > > > > numberOfRetries="5"
>
> > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.backend"
>
> > > > > />
>
> > > > > <messages>
>
> > > > > <add name="NHProfilerWeb.Backend.InternalMessages"
>
> > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.backend"/>
>
> > > > > <add name="NHProfilerWeb.Messages"
>
> > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.backend"/>
>
> > > > > </messages>
>
> > > > > </facility>
>
> > > > > </facilities>
>
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, chrisortman <[email protected]
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Does it violate anything if the same bus that sends the message is
> > > > > > also the one that is watching that queue?
>
> > > > > > Lets say I have 2 apps.
> > > > > > 1 NHProf website
> > > > > > 2 Windows Service that does order processing
>
> > > > > > So in the web app I would do something like
> > > > > > <facility id="rhino.esb" >
> > > > > > <bus threadCount="1"
> > > > > > numberOfRetries="5"
> > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.web"
> > > > > > />
> > > > > > <messages>
> > > > > > <add name="nhprof"
> > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.orders"/>
> > > > > > </messages>
> > > > > > </facility>
>
> > > > > > And then the service app:
> > > > > > <facility id="rhino.esb" >
> > > > > > <bus threadCount="1"
> > > > > > numberOfRetries="5"
> > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.svc"
> > > > > > />
> > > > > > <messages>
> > > > > > <add name="nhprof"
> > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/nhprof.orders"/>
> > > > > > </messages>
> > > > > > </facility>
> > > > > > On Jan 19, 10:53 am, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > No, there is an assumption that that queue exists.
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:50 AM, chrisortman <
> > [email protected]
>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Is there an assumption then that there exists a bus that is
> > > > watching
> > > > > > > > that endpoint?
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 10:27 am, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > inline
>
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:43 AM, chrisortman <
> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Is it correct to say that a Discarded message is any
> > message
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > arrives at an endpoint but has no consumers registered for
> > it?
>
> > > > > > > > > yes
> > > > > > > > > another option is that this is a saga message that doesn't
> > have a
> > > > > > saga
> > > > > > > > > instance to orchestrate it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I am also not understanding why messages have their own
> > > > endpoint or
> > > > > > > > > > when they should share the same endpoint as the bus?
>
> > > > > > > > > > I am running the trunk right now, and when I use this as my
> > > > config
> > > > > > > > > > <facility id="rhino.esb" >
> > > > > > > > > > <bus threadCount="1"
> > > > > > > > > > numberOfRetries="5"
>
> > > > > > > > > > logEndpoint="msmq://localhost/my.log"
> > > > > > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/rhino"
> > > > > > > > > > />
> > > > > > > > > > <messages>
> > > > > > > > > > <add
> > name="MyMessageAssembly"
> > > > > > > > > > endpoint="msmq://localhost/my.subscriptions"/>
> > > > > > > > > > </messages>
> > > > > > > > > > </facility>
>
> > > > > > > > > > I get errors because the my.subscriptions queue doesn't
> > exist.
>
> > > > > > > > > The problem that you have is that you are trying to send the
> > > > message
> > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > non existing bus.
>
> > > > > > > > > The reason that you have to specify an endpoint several times
> > is
> > > > that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > bus' endpoint says what queue the bus listen on.
> > > > > > > > > The message endpoint specify what is the owner of a
> > particular
> > > > set of
> > > > > > > > > messages.
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