Do we need to kill backwards compatibility.  I'm working on a patch/spike
where the class Fake is used which really just calls MockRepository under
the hood?

Thoughts?

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is a blog post that would show up day after tomorrow, I am posting it
> here to get some traction in the mailing list before we make it really
> public.
>
> Well, now that Rhino Mocks 3.6 is out of the way, we need to think about
> what the next version will look like.
>
> Initially, I thought to match Rhino Mocks 4.0 to the .NET 4.0 release and
> support mocking dynamic variables, but while this is still on the planning
> board, I think that it is much more important to stop and take a look at
> where Rhino Mocks is now and where we would like it to be.
>
> I started Rhino Mocks about 5 years ago, and the codebase has stood well in
> the test of time. There aren’t any nasty places and we can keep releasing
> new features with no major issues.
>
> However, 5 years ago the community perception of mocking was different than
> what it is now. Rhino Mocks hasn’t really changed significantly since it 1.1
> days, for that matter, you can take a code base using Rhino Mocks for .Net
> 1.1 and move it to Rhino Mocks 3.6 with no issues.
>
> But one of the most frequent complaints that I have heard is that Rhino
> Mocks API has became too complex over the years, there are too many options
> and knobs that you can turn. I know that my own style of interaction testing
> has changed as well.
>
> The current plan for Rhino Mocks 4.0 is that we will break backward
> compatibility in a big way. That means that we are going to drastically
> simplify everything in the framework.
>
> We are still discussing this in the mailing list, but currently it looks
> like we will go with the following route:
>
>    - Kill the dynamic, strict, partial and stub terminology. No one cares.
>    It is a fake.
>    - Remove the record / playback API. The AAA method is much simpler.
>    - Simplify mocking options, aiming at moving as much as possible from
>    expectation style to assert style.
>    - Keep as much of the current capabilities as we can. That means that
>    if Rhino Mocks was able to support a scenario, it should still support it
>    for the 4.0 version, hopefully in a simpler fashion.
>
> The end result is putting Rhino Mocks on an API diet. I am looking for help
> in doing this, both in terms of suggested syntax and in terms of actual
> patches.
>
> You are welcome to contribute…
>
> >
>


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