So are you up and running? Can I consider this one closed?

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:50 AM, tom308 <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Tim
> i can see that you feel a lot about laziness, and i am with you.
> people should do what they need and not look for shortcuts, this is
> the best way.
>
> As a developer of an infrastructure layer, Post Sharp gives me the
> ability to give better functionality, and in a very easy way for the
> user.
> It was totally my fault that led to my problem, and i have no regret
> using it.
> Tom
>
> On Nov 12, 10:56 pm, bill richards <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Just an observation ....
> >
> > Tom, and herein lies the beauty of proper testing.
> >
> > The thing is though, I believe that if the code had been developed
> > using a TDD approach, I am pretty certain that you would never have
> > introduced such a bug. I think that this is a very good example of how
> > 1) retro fitted "unit" tests can and do have at least some value, but
> > more importantly how 2) developing WITHOUT tests can and usually does
> > culminate in a flawed design at the functional level.
> >
> > And a little off topic ...
> >
> > Personally, I am a fan of any tool that can aid in making my job
> > easier, lord knows we poor developers have to put up with a lot of
> > rubbish from some people sometimes! However, is it really necessary to
> > use PostSharp? What exactly is the point of these libraries
> > (PostSharp)? Are they really anything more than a mechanism to enable
> > me to write less code? I have seen examples of, heard about, and even
> > had to deal with messes introduced through the use of PostSharp. I
> > believe that use of these libraries encourage laziness in the
> > coder ... INotifyPropertyChanged is a really simple interface to
> > implement, why do people insist on creating a NotifyPropertyChanged
> > aspect? all they have really achieved is creating dependencies upon
> > libraries that only serve to stop me having to write as much code ...
> > "Ah, but what if I have hundreds of properties on my class?"  ... Then
> > you have a design flaw right there in front of you! And the worst of
> > the bunch is when it's used so that "you don't even have to write
> > exception handlers"!!
> >
> > It's not a rant (or not meant to be), and I know it's not in the right
> > group but it's something I had to say, sorry about that!
> >
>


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Tim Barcz
Microsoft C# MVP
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