Evan,

This has been happening for a while now (about 3.5 weeks now), even prior
to our upgrade to 1.3.

-giri

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Evan Vigil-McClanahan <
emcclana...@basho.com> wrote:

> No.  AAE is unrelated to the handoff subsystem.  I am not familiar
> enough with the lowest level of it's working to know if it'd reproduce
> the TTL stuff across on nodes that don't have it.
>
> I am not totally sure about your timeline here.
>
> When did you start seeing these errors, before or after your upgrade
> to 1.3?  When did you start your cluster transition?  What cluster
> transitions have you initiated?
>
> If these errors started with 1.3, an interesting experiment would be
> to disable AAE and do a rolling restart of the cluster, which should
> lead to empty memory backends that won't be populated by AAE with
> anything suspicious.  That said: if you've had cluster balance
> problems for a while, it's possible that these messages (even this
> whole issue) is just masking some other problem.
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Giri Iyengar
> <giri.iyen...@sociocast.com> wrote:
> > Evan,
> >
> > All nodes have been restarted (more than once, in fact) after the config
> > changes. Using riak-admin aae-status, I noticed that the anti-entropy
> repair
> > is still proceeding across the cluster.
> > It has been less than 24 hours since I upgraded to 1.3 and maybe I have
> to
> > wait till the first complete build of the index trees happens for the
> > cluster to start rebalancing itself.
> > Could that be the case?
> >
> > -giri
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Evan Vigil-McClanahan
> > <emcclana...@basho.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Giri,
> >>
> >> if all of the nodes are using identical app.config files (including
> >> the joining node) and have been restarted since those files changed,
> >> it may be some other, related issue.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Giri Iyengar
> >> <giri.iyen...@sociocast.com> wrote:
> >> > Evan,
> >> >
> >> > I reconfirmed that all the servers are using identical app.configs.
> They
> >> > all
> >> > use multi-backend schema. Are you saying that some of the vnodes are
> in
> >> > memory backend in one physical node and in eleveldb backend in another
> >> > physical node?
> >> > If so, how can I fix the offending vnodes?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > -giri
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Evan Vigil-McClanahan
> >> > <emcclana...@basho.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> it would if some of the nodes weren't migrated to the new
> >> >> multi-backend schema; if a memory node was trying to hand off to a
> >> >> eleveldb backed node, you'd see this.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Giri Iyengar
> >> >> <giri.iyen...@sociocast.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Evan,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I verified that all of the memory backends have the same ttl
> settings
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > have done rolling restarts but it doesn't seem to make a
> difference.
> >> >> > One
> >> >> > thing to note though -- I remember this problem starting roughly
> >> >> > around
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > time I migrated a bucket from being backed by leveldb to being
> backed
> >> >> > by
> >> >> > memory. I did this by setting the bucket properties via curl and
> let
> >> >> > Riak do
> >> >> > the migration of the objects in that bucket. Would that cause such
> >> >> > issues?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for your help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -giri
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Evan Vigil-McClanahan
> >> >> > <emcclana...@basho.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Giri, I've seen similar issues in the past when someone was
> >> >> >> adjusting
> >> >> >> their ttl setting on the memory backend.  Because one memory
> backend
> >> >> >> has it and the other does not, it fails on handoff.   The solution
> >> >> >> then was to make sure that all memory backend settings are the
> same
> >> >> >> and then do a rolling restart of the cluster (ignoring a lot of
> >> >> >> errors
> >> >> >> along the way).  I am not sure that this is applicable to your
> case,
> >> >> >> but it's something to look at.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Giri Iyengar
> >> >> >> <giri.iyen...@sociocast.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Godefroy:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks. Your email exchange on the mailing list was what
> prompted
> >> >> >> > me
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > consider switching to Riak 1.3. I do see repair messages in the
> >> >> >> > console
> >> >> >> > logs
> >> >> >> > and so some healing is happening. However, there are a bunch of
> >> >> >> > hinted
> >> >> >> > handoffs and ownership handoffs that are simply not proceeding
> >> >> >> > because
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > same vnodes keep coming up for transfer and fail. Perhaps there
> is
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > manual
> >> >> >> > way to forcibly repair and push the vnodes around.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -giri
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Godefroy de Compreignac
> >> >> >> > <godef...@eklablog.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I have exactly the same problem with my cluster. If anyone
> knows
> >> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> >> those errors mean... :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Godefroy
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> 2013/3/28 Giri Iyengar <giri.iyen...@sociocast.com>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Hello,
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> We are running a 6-node Riak 1.3.0 cluster in production. We
> >> >> >> >>> recently
> >> >> >> >>> upgraded to 1.3. Prior to this, we were running Riak 1.2 on
> the
> >> >> >> >>> same
> >> >> >> >>> 6-node
> >> >> >> >>> cluster.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> We are finding that the nodes are not balanced. For instance:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> ================================= Membership
> >> >> >> >>> ==================================
> >> >> >> >>> Status     Ring    Pending    Node
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >>> valid       0.0%      0.0%    'riak@172.16.25.106'
> >> >> >> >>> valid      34.4%     20.3%    'riak@172.16.25.107'
> >> >> >> >>> valid      21.9%     20.3%    'riak@172.16.25.113'
> >> >> >> >>> valid      19.5%     20.3%    'riak@172.16.25.114'
> >> >> >> >>> valid       8.6%     19.5%    'riak@172.16.25.121'
> >> >> >> >>> valid      15.6%     19.5%    'riak@172.16.25.122'
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >>> Valid:6 / Leaving:0 / Exiting:0 / Joining:0 / Down:0
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> When we look at the logs in the largest node
> >> >> >> >>> (riak@172.16.25.107),
> >> >> >> >>> we
> >> >> >> >>> see
> >> >> >> >>> error messages that look like this:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> 2013-03-28 13:04:16.957 [error]
> >> >> >> >>> <0.10957.1462>@riak_core_handoff_sender:start_fold:226
> >> >> >> >>> hinted_handoff
> >> >> >> >>> transfer of riak_kv_vnode from 'riak@172.16.25.107'
> >> >> >> >>> 148433760041419827630061740822747494183805648896 to
> >> >> >> >>> 'riak@172.16.25.121'
> >> >> >> >>> 148433760041419827630061740822747494183805648896 failed
> because
> >> >> >> >>> of
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> error:{badmatch,{error,{worker_crash,{function_clause,[{riak_core_pb,encode,[{ts,{1364,476737,222223}},{{ts,{1364,476737,222223}},<<131,104,7,100,0,8,114,95,111,98,106,101,99,116,109,0,0,0,11,69,78,84,73,84,89,95,83,69,83,83,109,0,0,0,36,67,54,57,95,48,48,51,56,100,56,102,50,52,49,52,99,97,97,54,102,99,52,56,53,52,99,99,101,51,98,50,48,102,53,98,52,108,0,0,0,1,104,3,100,0,9,114,95,99,111,110,116,101,110,116,104,9,100,0,4,100,105,99,116,97,5,97,16,97,16,97,8,97,80,97,48,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,104,1,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,2,108,0,0,0,11,109,0,0,0,12,99,111,110,116,101,110,116,45,116,121,112,101,97,116,97,101,97,120,97,116,97,47,97,112,97,108,97,97,97,105,97,110,106,108,0,0,0,23,109,0,0,0,11,88,45,82,105,97,107,45,86,84,97,103,97,51,97,120,97,105,97,101,97,120,97,66,97,120,97,107,97,119,97,101,97,75,97,117,97,122,97,111,97,55,97,85,97,104,97,85,97,107,97,112,97,120,97,107,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,109,0,0,0,5,105,110,100,101,120,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,109,0,0,0,20,88,45,82,105,97,107,45,76,97,115,116,45,77,111,100,105,102,105,101,100,104,3,98,0,0,5,84,98,0,7,70,65,98,0,3,99,115,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,6,109,0,0,0,7,99,104,97,114,115,101,116,97,85,97,84,97,70,97,45,97,56,106,106,109,0,0,0,36,52,54,55,98,54,51,98,50,45,50,99,56,52,45,52,56,50,99,45,97,48,99,54,45,56,53,50,100,53,99,57,97,98,98,53,101,106,108,0,0,0,1,104,2,109,0,0,0,8,0,69,155,215,81,84,63,31,104,2,97,1,110,5,0,65,191,200,202,14,106,104,9,100,0,4,100,105,99,116,97,1,97,16,97,16,97,8,97,80,97,48,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,104,1,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,100,0,5,99,108,101,97,110,100,0,4,116,114,117,101,106,106,100,0,9,117,110,100,101,102,105,110,101,100>>}],[{file,"src/riak_core_pb.erl"},{line,40}]},{riak_core_pb,pack,5,...},...]},...}}}
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> [{riak_core_handoff_sender,start_fold,5,[{file,"src/riak_core_handoff_sender.erl"},{line,170}]}]
> >> >> >> >>> 2013-03-28 13:04:16.961 [error] <0.29352.909> CRASH REPORT
> >> >> >> >>> Process
> >> >> >> >>> <0.29352.909> with 0 neighbours exited with reason: no
> function
> >> >> >> >>> clause
> >> >> >> >>> matching riak_core_pb:encode({ts,{1364,476737,222223}},
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> {{ts,{1364,476737,222223}},<<131,104,7,100,0,8,114,95,111,98,106,101,99,116,109,0,0,0,11,69,78,...>>})
> >> >> >> >>> line 40 in gen_server:terminate/6 line 747
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> 2013-03-28 13:04:13.888 [error]
> >> >> >> >>> <0.12680.1435>@riak_core_handoff_sender:start_fold:226
> >> >> >> >>> ownership_handoff
> >> >> >> >>> transfer of riak_kv_vnode from 'riak@172.16.25.107'
> >> >> >> >>> 11417981541647679048466287755595961091061972992 to
> >> >> >> >>> 'riak@172.16.25.113'
> >> >> >> >>> 11417981541647679048466287755595961091061972992 failed because
> >> >> >> >>> of
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> error:{badmatch,{error,{worker_crash,{function_clause,[{riak_core_pb,encode,[{ts,{1364,458917,232318}},{{ts,{1364,458917,232318}},<<131,104,7,100,0,8,114,95,111,98,106,101,99,116,109,0,0,0,11,69,78,84,73,84,89,95,83,69,83,83,109,0,0,0,36,67,54,57,95,48,48,48,54,52,98,99,52,53,51,49,52,55,101,50,101,53,97,102,101,102,49,57,99,50,55,99,97,49,53,54,99,108,0,0,0,1,104,3,100,0,9,114,95,99,111,110,116,101,110,116,104,9,100,0,4,100,105,99,116,97,5,97,16,97,16,97,8,97,80,97,48,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,104,1,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,2,108,0,0,0,11,109,0,0,0,12,99,111,110,116,101,110,116,45,116,121,112,101,97,116,97,101,97,120,97,116,97,47,97,112,97,108,97,97,97,105,97,110,106,108,0,0,0,23,109,0,0,0,11,88,45,82,105,97,107,45,86,84,97,103,97,54,97,88,97,76,97,66,97,69,97,69,97,116,97,73,97,104,97,118,97,77,97,86,97,48,97,81,97,103,97,110,97,119,97,73,97,51,97,85,97,72,97,53,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,109,0,0,0,5,105,110,100,101,120,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,109,0,0,0,20,88,45,82,105,97,107,45,76,97,115,116,45,77,111,100,105,102,105,101,100,104,3,98,0,0,5,84,98,0,7,0,165,98,0,3,138,179,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,6,109,0,0,0,7,99,104,97,114,115,101,116,97,85,97,84,97,70,97,45,97,56,106,106,109,0,0,0,36,55,102,98,52,50,54,54,53,45,57,100,56,48,45,52,54,98,97,45,98,53,97,100,45,56,55,52,52,54,54,97,97,50,56,53,99,106,108,0,0,0,1,104,2,109,0,0,0,8,0,69,155,215,81,59,179,219,104,2,97,1,110,5,0,165,121,200,202,14,106,104,9,100,0,4,100,105,99,116,97,1,97,16,97,16,97,8,97,80,97,48,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,104,1,104,16,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,106,108,0,0,0,1,108,0,0,0,1,100,0,5,99,108,101,97,110,100,0,4,116,114,117,101,106,106,100,0,9,117,110,100,101,102,105,110,101,100>>}],[{file,"src/riak_core_pb.erl"},{line,40}]},{riak_core_pb,pack,5,[{...},...]},...]},...}}}
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> [{riak_core_handoff_sender,start_fold,5,[{file,"src/riak_core_handoff_sender.erl"},{line,170}]}]
> >> >> >> >>> 2013-03-28 13:04:14.255 [error] <0.1120.0> CRASH REPORT
> Process
> >> >> >> >>> <0.1120.0> with 0 neighbours exited with reason: no function
> >> >> >> >>> clause
> >> >> >> >>> matching
> >> >> >> >>> riak_core_pb:encode({ts,{1364,458917,232318}},
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> {{ts,{1364,458917,232318}},<<131,104,7,100,0,8,114,95,111,98,106,101,99,116,109,0,0,0,11,69,78,...>>})
> >> >> >> >>> line 40 in gen_server:terminate/6 line 747
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> This has been going on for days and the cluster doesn't seem
> to
> >> >> >> >>> be
> >> >> >> >>> rebalancing itself. We see this issue with both
> hinted_handoffs
> >> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >> >>> ownership_handoffs. Looks like we have some corrupt data in
> our
> >> >> >> >>> cluster. I
> >> >> >> >>> checked through the leveldb LOGs and did not see any
> compaction
> >> >> >> >>> errors.
> >> >> >> >>> I was hoping that upgrading to 1.3.0 will slowly start
> repairing
> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >>> cluster. However, that doesn't seem to be happening.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Any help/hints would be much appreciated.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> -giri
> >> >> >> >>> --
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