Truman:

The crux of the matter is contained in your words "The way
that was explained to me" All explanations in the world do
not make for fact. The fact is, there is no provision in our
new By-laws for family memberships. The By-laws provide for
a multitude of categories but exclude that of Family
Membership. Was this by design or by accident. If it was by
accident then it can be rectified. If it was by design, then
why is not the designer weighing in with a true explanation?
Now is the time to correct these things as with the proposed
quorum size I doubt we ever see the membership response
necessary for an action.

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

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The way that was explained to me is this is an issue of fee
structure
and not membership status. Maybe someone could explain why
it is in the
bylaws in this manner.

One good thing about the new bylaws is the article on
conflict of
interest. It has some teeth, no as many or as sharp of teeth
that I
would like to see, but it's sure better than the old bylaws.

Truman

Bob Morris wrote:

>Well, since no one else has had the interest to delve into
>the proposed new AERC By-laws and what they portend for the
>membership, I thought I might stir the pot and see what
>occurs.
>
>I went on line and used the URL of
>http://www.aerc.org/bylaws/frameBylaws.html to get to the
>page where the old and new By-laws are available.
>
>I am going to ramble around and look at those items that I
>think are going to cause trouble for the general
membership.
>
>First and foremost is the fact that there is no longer a
>FAMILY MEMBERSHIP provided for in the new proposed By-laws.
>To me this is a travesty of untold extent.  Go to ARTICLE V
>MEMBERSHIP and look closely at this section then click on
>the link provided in the explanation preceding the section.
>The explanation reached through this link is to my mind
very
>weak It states " Both existing and proposed bylaws allow
the
>board to establish the dues structure so there need be no
>change in dues with the passage of the new bylaws unless
the
>board decides to change for some other reason. " To me
these
>are just words. The fact is there is no longer to be a
>FAMILY MEMBERSHIP.
>
>Now, if the Board of Directors is sincere in their intent
to
>provide for a Family Membership, then they should show it
by
>including it in the By-laws. Their intent is good but a
>person can starve on just intents. No procedure has been
>written to handle Family Memberships and such would have to
>be in place to handle any requests if the proposed By-laws
>are approved.
>
>As an example of the double talk offered to you I quote the
>explanation of the family membership dues; "Section 5.05
>provides for the board to determine dues structure and
which
>allows for the family membership dues structure to
continue"
>. However when you really read the section 5.05; "5.05. The
>annual dues payable to the Conference by Members shall be
in
>such amounts as shall be determined by the Board. Dues
shall
>by payable for the first year on admission to membership
and
>annually thereafter on or before December 1 of each Ride
>Season. If a Member does not pay the annual dues by the
>first day of the Ride Season or an alternate date fixed by
>the Board, they will automatically become an Inactive
Member
>until their dues are paid for that Ride Season. They will
>remain an Inactive Member until such time that they remit
>the dues for the then current Ride Season, at which time
>they will be reclassified as an Active Member. "  There is
>no reference to, nor mention of, any structure to
>accommodate any such nomenclature as a Family Membership.
>
>
>If for no other reason, concerning these revisions to the
>way the AERC is organized, you should contact your Regional
>and At-large  Directors and ask for a full explanation as
to
>how they intend to make this one change work.  Do not be
>satisfied with an answer of "don't worry, we will work it
>out in the end" It must be worked out very clearly in the
>beginning or the AERC will no longer be a family oriented
>conference.
>
>More to come!
>
>Bob
>
>Bob Morris
>Morris Endurance Enterprises
>Boise, ID
>
>
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