> Has this discussion been taken off line? Personally I am very 
> interested in seeing a qualified answer to Magnus' question.

No, there is no off line discussion on the subject.

Best regards,
Magnus



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Magnus Helgerud Sørby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Dear Srebri and Yaroslav,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your input. However, my question does not concern a
> specific compound I'm working with myself, but rather the 
> ranking of the
> solutions in Armel Le Bail's benchmark tests with bethanechol chloride
> (http://sdpd.univ-lemans.fr/uppw/benchmarks/).
> 
> In case A(1), the unit cell a=13.4990Å, b=4.9342Å c=13.1994 
> beta=94.887deg
> gets M(11)=33.7. The unit cell which is considered correct 
> for bethanechol
> chloride, a=8.8364Å  b=16.3713Å c=7.1130Å beta=93.794deg gets 
> M(11)=31.5.
> Still, DICVOL04 earns a +1 in the test, indicating that the 
> program gave the
> (supposedly known) correct unit cell as the best suggestion. My only
> question is why, in this particular case, the "M=31.5 unit cell" is
> considered a better suggestion than the "M=33.7 unit cell".
> 
> Best regards,
> Magnus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > Fra: Yaroslav Filinchuk, SNBL at ESRF
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 27. juni 2006 14:19
> > Til: Magnus Helgerud Sørby
> > Emne: Re[2]: Ranking of solutions in DICVOL04
> >
> >
> > Hello Magnus,
> >
> >   send me the details on your compound, I will search for it in the
> >   CSD.
> >
> > Yaroslav
> >
> > ===8<==============Original message text===============
> > The benchmarking tests were done on various XRD data for bethanechol
> > chloride. I assume that its crystal structure is determine
> > (since knowing
> > its unit cell with certainty should be a prerequisite for
> > choosing it as a
> > benchmarking compound), but I cannot check it since I don't
> > have access to
> > any database for organic crystal structures.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Magnus H. Sørby
> >
> >
> > > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > > Fra: Leonid Solovyov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sendt: 22. juni 2006 09:08
> > > Til: [email protected]
> > > Emne: Re: Ranking of solutions in DICVOL04
> > >
> > >
> > > > Why should the correct unit cell be considered
> > > > as the best solution in this particular case
> > > > (assuming that we do not know in advance what
> > > > the correct unit cell is)?
> > >
> > > I don't understand how a unit cell variant can be called
> > > "found" and/or
> > > "correct" in any case when it is not confirmed by further 
> successful
> > > structure determination.
> > >
> > > Leonid Solovyov
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > ===8<===========End of original message text===========
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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