Dear Vengadesh and Alan,
I apologise for the "too fast" search, however, I bet many of us would love
people finding the cifs they need through databases or web sources other
than requesting them to the Rietveld List :-). Though many of us have
answered to the requests, IMHO science shouldn't depend on the good will of
others.
Not being the ONLY source, the COD could be extremely helpful if one cannot
afford the paid resources (for whatever reason).

So, I suggest the people that got no subscription to ICSD and need a cif,
first look at:
http://sdpd.univ-lemans.fr/cod/search.html
Or the American Mineralogist Database
http://rruff.geo.arizona.edu/AMS/amcsd.php

And also (why not) the web-based demo version of ICSD (at
http://icsdweb.fiz-karlsruhe.de/index.php, sometimes you are lucky enough
and can get a cif for free from a paid database!), Google Schollar for
papers, etc. 

And make the request to a friend or the list only after exhausting the free
resources.

Best wishes,
Leo


Dr. Leopoldo Suescun
Postodoctoral Appointee
Materials Science Division - Bldg 223 - Rm D217 
Argonne National Laboratory
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Hewat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cif data


>Take a look at the Crystallography Open Database:
>Both compounds you need are there (among thousands), and you can get 
>the cifs yourself for free.

Actually, there are no CIFs in COD for BiMnO3 (C2) and only one paper (from
1971) that contains a CIF for BiFeO3 (R3c). The other 3 COD papers are for
different compounds (Bi2Fe4O9  and Bi2Mn4O10). 

The 2002 paper that I quoted comes from ICSD, which contains 20 papers on
(Bi,Fe,O) phases and 6 on (Bi,Mn,O) including the (C2) and (R3c) phases
requested :-)

Alan.

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