Dear Alan,
so it seems I am using an Interface version which is too old.
I guess I should urge the responsibles to update it.
Thanks for the information.
Best wishes,
Frank
Alan Hewat wrote:
Dear Frank,
As I wrote, I was referring to my personal opinion and the new ICSD WWW
pages on http://icsd.fiz-karlsruhe.de/ which do allow consecutive
searches, combination of results and methods of searching for similar
structures, structure-types etc.
FIZ provides both WWW and FINDIT versions under the exact same conditions,
so the choice is yours (previously FINDIT was cheaper). As I wrote, FIZ
even allow you to trade in a license for one version against another, and
provides demo versions of both to allow you to choose.
Certainly each has pros and cons, and I have not tried to list all of
them. In particular ICSD is good at drawing structures using Jmol such
that it is usually easy to see immediately the chemical interest of the
structure. ICSD was the first to use this kind of drawing for inorganic
structures, but it has now been adopted by all IUCr journals
http://journals.iucr.org/ as well as other databases such as the Cambridge
Organic database http://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/ the Zeolite database
http://www.iza-structure.org/databases/ etc
Alan.
Frank Girgsdies said:
Dear Alan,
isn't it a little bit unfair to list just the Pros but skip the Cons?
We used to have a FINDIT subscription several years ago. Sadly,
our purchasing department canceled the subscription when we
got institutional access to the WWW version.
If I remember correctly, FINDIT had far more options to customize
and tweak a search than the WWW interface offers. You could e.g. search
for reduced cells, conduct several consecutive searches and combine
the results, select positive hits from the list and skip the rest,
export the selected hits etc. All these are features which I miss
badly in the WWW version (Or is there a way? Maybe I'm using the wrong
engine (http://icsd.fkf.mpg.de)?)
So, if you are just looking for a specific crystal structure, the
WWW version is nice because it is always up-to-date.
But if you try to condcut a systematic and as-complete-as-possible
study on a class of compounds, it can be really frustrating to
have just the WWW version instead of FINDIT.
However, this is just a personal opinion based on experience from
several years ago. Maybe the boundary conditions have changed since
then...
Best wishes,
Frank
Alan Hewat wrote:
I have problem to use FINDIT software: after the starting windows,
sometimes it freeze. Is there anyone that know how resolve this
problem?
FINDIT runs the PC version of the ICSD database. My personal opinion :-)
is that you should switch to the WWW version on
http://icsd.fiz-karlsruhe.de/ You can get a demo account and you can
trade in your FINDIT license for a WWW ICSD license, which will always
be up to date and run on any computer.
Alan.
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