Following the definitions of the IMA nomenclature committee, mica subcommittee, (e.g. Rieder et al., AmMin Vol. 83 11-12, 1366), see
http://www.minsocam.org/MSA/IMA/ima98%2810%29.pdf
in the system of dioctahedral micas, the borderline between celadonite and glauconite is the layer charge of 0.85, and the "K-deficient micas" illite and glauconite are defined by </> 50 % Fe at the octahedral positions. Thus, celadonite and glauconite may not be distinguished by the b-axis value (060/33l positions). To separate illite from glauconite (and muscovite from celadonite as well) one should be sure about the octahedral Fe content. I'm in doubt that this is possible to do correctly from the 060/33l position only, as there is also a certain Mg for Al substitution. Moreover, all these minerals commonly prefer the 1M structure but tend strongly to disorder in layer stacking (60/120°rotations, mixed-layering of cis/trans octahedral occupation). Consequently, the diffraction patterns are very variable, and a Rietveld refinement of complex mixtures using ideal mica structures is like gambling. Regarding non-convergence of refining superimposing ankerite-dolomite patterns : Could be a problem of profile modeling. If the high angle peaks are strongly broadened/smeared by "microstrain" (i.e. chemical gradients) of one or both "phases" and there are no physically sound constraints of the peak shapes, always one (the dominating) phase tends to catch all the intensity in the peak flanks by extreme "broadening". Consequently, there are no remaining maxima what could be fitted by the minor phase and the refinement of the lattice parameters runs into a wrong minimum. You should simply apply the old wisdoms: add physically meaningful constraints, for lattice parameters and profile shapes. And try to find a meaningful model for the peak profiles. But if there are more complicated reasons for the misfit, e.g. continuous gradients of the chemical composition, or any disorder in cation occupation like in "Ca excess dolomites", than it sounds like a hard job to find (and to formulate) a reasonable model for your refinement.

Reinhard

Am 22/04/2015 um 17:28 schrieb "Łukasz Kruszewski":
Dear Friends,
I have two questions on PXRD. First, is it possible to distinguish between
illite and glauconite and celadonite in a complex mixture containing
quartz, illite, muscovite, chlorite and kaolinite (plus some
interstratified clay minerals)? I was trying with (060) reflections, and I
cannot observe anything with d(060) > 1.51, but there is a reflection
between 1.50 (that I ascribe to illite) and 1.51, thus I assumed it could
be from celadonite.
Second question. I use TOPAS (v. 4.0) for the Rietveld refinement. I have
samples with dolomite and I know that it is strongly zoned, thus the main
reflection is split (dolomite + ankerite). As an input I've used these 2
structures, but both reflections obtained during the refinement lie at the
same position, leaving the "shoulder" non-adjusted (to dolomite). I
suppose this result is wrong (?). Do you have any idea how to fit such a
"shoulder-like" reflection in such case?

Best regards!



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