I was not complaining about the cost, just questioning what was quoted -
only two thousand CHF ? Does that include a precise temperature controller
- or just the hot air ?

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 Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE
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On 3 Jul 2015 12:52, "Radovan Cerny" <radovan.ce...@unige.ch> wrote:

>  Complaining about the cost of small Swiss companies is not appropriate
> on the Rietveld list J
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> On Facebook it would be automatically censored by BB …
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> I have the same heater, and once you calibrate it is quite stable and
> precise.
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> Destroying the samples is more expensive in the industry than in our labs …
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> Radovan Cerny
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> Laboratoire de Cristallographie, DQMP
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> *De :* alan.he...@gmail.com [mailto:alan.he...@gmail.com] *De la part de*
> Alan Hewat
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 3 juillet 2015 12:15
> *À :* Yaroslav Filinchuk UCL
> *Cc :* SAJ Kimber; rietveld_l@ill.fr
> *Objet :* Re: Cyberstar hot air blowers
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> 2000 CHF? Precise temperature control is essential since often you will
> want to work near transitions where you risk destroying your sample. That
> also costs.
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> _____________________________________________________
>   From my mobile telephone
>  Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE
> <alan.he...@neutronoptics.com> +33.476.98.41.68
>   http://www.NeutronOptics.com/hewat
> _____________________________________________________
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> On 3 Jul 2015 11:38, "Yaroslav Filinchuk UCL" <
> yaroslav.filinc...@uclouvain.be> wrote:
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> Hello Simon,
>
> we are successfully using a programmable hot air blower (25-750°C) called
> Le Mini Sensor Kit 800, from the Swiss company Leister. It costs about 2000
> CHF, and is aimed at the industrial use. It allows to do ramps, it follows
> the protocol very closely, but the temperatures and real ramp rates have to
> be calibrated.
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> Best regards,
> Yaroslav
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> Friday, July 3, 2015, 10:38:50 AM, you wrote:
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> Dear All,
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> Sorry not a direct Rietveld question, but I hope somebody can help  : )
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> We often use high temperature (RT - 1000 C) gas blowers at ESRF for their
> flexibility and low background. Those made by Cyberstar seem to have become
> prohibitively expensive. Does anyone know of a competing supplier?
>
> best wishes,
>
> Simon
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