Geert,

Sorry, I thought the fwd contained enough info; it's our usual Javawug
meeting (at skillsmatter) and we decided that an expert on a web app
framework comes out to defend it. Sort of a boxing match between the
frameworks (based on a user's experience).

Some questions (but not restricted):

> What type of applications are suited the web application framework
> in question?
> What are pros and cons of each framework?
> How easy is it to learn?
> What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,
> Apache etc )
> Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order
> to ease-development?
> Are these frameworks easy to extend?
> Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly available?
> How do these frameworks support AJAX?
> How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?

Cheers,
Emmanuel

On 1/17/07, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
When is that?

On 17 Jan 2007, at 18:33, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:

> FYI:
>
> rife will be represented at the web framework smackdown :)
>
> cheers,
> Emmanuel
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Jan 17, 2007 5:26 PM
> Subject: RE: BOF 24 Planning
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi Lauren
>
>
> As promised here is some more content for JAVAWUG BOF 24 :
>
>
>
> The evening will consists of a so-called web framework smack-down
> between three proponents.
> We will convene and discuss the pros and cons of the following web
> frameworks.
>
> RIFE - Emmanuel Okyere will be representing this candidate. RIFE is
> a new generation full-stack framework that is based on advanced
> template technology, it is considered a pioneer in its field. For
> example RIFE was one of the first to build in a continuations
> framework.
> Spring MVC - Peter Pilgrim will be representing this framework.
> This is a web framework that was designed by Rod Johnson to be
> better than Struts Classic edition. This framework is strongly
> associated with the Spring Framework itself and also the companion
> project Spring Webflow
> Kevin Saunders will deliver a short presentation on using Java
> 5.0 / JSP 2.0 / EL / Servlet 2.4 as your web framework. That is, he
> will be representing the standard APIs, with the tools available
> out-of-the-box. He will show examples using the current version of
> Java together with the recent JSP/Servlet specification which will
> allow you to create MVC sites very quickly and easily.
> In particular the current version of EL has knicked most of the
> good things about Struts and is definately worth a look
>
> Fourth person - (Adam Hardy , Eclipse Tomcat based Applications TBC)
>
> At the time of going to press the evening may take the place of a
> panel discussion with each representative
> providing a demonstration with strong interaction with the
> audience. So the BOF may or may not follow a
> mini open space technology discussion style.
>
> Some additional questions to worth pondering:
>
> What type of applications are suited the web application framework
> in question?
> What are pros and cons of each framework?
> How easy is it to learn?
> What are the dependencies for each framework? (e.g Java EE, J2EE,
> Apache etc )
> Are there any tools that support any of these frameworks in order
> to ease-development?
> Are these frameworks easy to extend?
> Are there real-world examples out there on the net publicly available?
> How do these frameworks support AJAX?
> How will these frameworks feature in an increasingly Web 2.0 world?
>
> --
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>
>
> From: Lauren Clegg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 January 2007 10:12
> To: Pilgrim, Peter
> Subject: Re: Skills Matter Availability
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I did have a great Christmas and New Year's - thank you! I went
> back to Boston for Christmas and was also back in London for New
> Year's Eve. Monday, 19th February works for us, I have added the
> meeting   to the schedule. If you could just send me a brief write-
> up, description, etc. of what the BOF will be all about so that I
> can make a registration page on our website ASAP, that would be great!
>
> Thanks!
> Lauren
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