On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, s...@gibbard.org wrote:
ASN coverage is just 5.6%. That really doesn't give a complete global
view for stats. Rather than return money to LIRs every year in their
bill, why not state that any LIR running an active probe within their ASN
will get a 50Euro credit on their bill? That alone would increase ASN
footprint coverage quickly within RIPE.
-Hank
I think it’s worth first considering a couple questions: what is the goal
here, and what are the constraints on meeting that goal?
If the goal is “lots and lots of probes in ever increasing numbers,” than
spinning up lots of VM probes would be great. It would be an easy way to get
probes in large numbers cheaply and efficiently. But if the goal is to do
actual network performance measurements from the perspective of the end users
who actually use the Internet, that doesn’t help much.
Where Atlas really shines is in the huge number of measurement points on end
user connections all over the world. Need to understand what the network looks
like to users on some ISP in Venezuela? Atlas probably has a probe, and can
tell you that.
Here we get into an issue of the low hanging fruit being pretty saturated. For
instance, I could plug in a probe at my house, but it would be the third Atlas
probe on Comcast in Oakland, California, and wouldn’t really add anything
(thus, I have a probe that I’ve been carrying around in my bag for the last few
months waiting until I have time to plug it in somewhere more interesting). But
there are still a lot of smaller ISPs that don’t have Atlas probes despite
having enough end users for measurements to matter, probably because they don’t
have any customers who are part of the global network operations community. It
should be possible to get probes installed in a bunch of those, but it would
require both available probe hardware and a targeted effort.
My second question is what the constraints are on sending out new probes. Is
there a shortage at the supplier, or is this just something that needs funding?
-Steve
On Feb 14, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
I think it’s quite easy to get a VM these days as well, so the needs have
perhaps changed somewhat.
I know that hosting a VM anchor is a lot easier now, and people may have an
easier time hosting a VM than a probe in some cases.
- Jared
On Feb 14, 2019, at 12:13 PM, James Gannon <ja...@cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
Hard to get new probes these days.
On 14.02.19, 18:10, "ripe-atlas on behalf of Hank Nussbacher"
<ripe-atlas-boun...@ripe.net on behalf of h...@efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote:
On 12/02/2019 18:22, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
As I am preparing my presentation I went to the stats page:
https://atlas.ripe.net/results/maps/network-coverage/
and found that even user growth continues upward as well as number of
anchor probes, the number of actual probes has more or less tapered off
as of mid-2017 and ends close to 10,000 probes. Why is that?
Since Nov 2015 when we passed the 9000 probe mark, probe growth is
negligible.
Why have all these new users (20,000 new uses since Nov 2015!) not added
probes?
What are we doing wrong to entice users to install probes?
Regards,
Hank
I have been invited to a large CS dept in a university to give a 40
minute intro into
what is RIPE ATLAS, how does it work, how do you get credits, how many
probes
are there, what is an anchor, where are they located, how does the GUI
work, what type of measurements
can one do, etc. Very very introductory - just to whet their
appetite. A basic intro to RIPE ATLAS.
So I looked in:
https://atlas.ripe.net/resources/training-and-materials/
and didn't find anything (PS the webinar link is broken).
I am sure there must be some PPT/PDF presentation out there for this.
Pointers?
Thanks,
Hank
