But the only real solution to this is the one I have used personally. My 
children were encouraged to follow whatever career preferences they wished and 
the girls especially were encouraged not take shit from anyone. 

Nigel

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On 25 Oct 2016, at 00:30, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I do think we, as a community (and by extension, society) should aim
>> to be better than the general status quo. We should be aiming higher.
> 
> considering that our industry and the general society are horrifying
> and embarrassing disasters in this area, we should aim for massively
> better.
> 
> randy
> 

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