Randy, 

<frank and direct>
Of course I am flattered by your trust in the RIPE community. I am worried 
about just the abuse that you mention in the IETF context. I see the RIPE 
community changing and I remain concerned about abuse in the future. Yes we 
need to evolve our CoC *** with the appropriate checks and balances against 
abuse ***. 
<emotional>
The violent reactions I get when I say this are worrisome and they hurt!
Ah, full circle back to the subject. Ironic, isn‘t it? Maybe I should see a 
trusted contact?
</all>
Daniel
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> On 20. Oct 2019, at 17:46, Randy Bush <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> hi leslie:
> 
> i agree with you, in this context and with the proposal's intent within
> the ripe culture.
> 
> <tactless>
> 
> i suspect that there are a number of us who are made uncomfortable, not
> by this proposal, but because, at the same time, a coc change process is
> occurring in the ietf, where it is being used to suppress dissent with
> the corporatisation and destruction of the structure and to actually
> protect a clique of bullies.
> 
> </tactless>
> 
> but again, i agree with you, and support the coc proposal.
> 
> randy
> 
> 

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