It is possible but I highly doubt it. > We at Abusix run Abuse Desk for dozens of Service Providers of any size and any type of product. From Cloud to DC-Services, Cable, and so on.
That sounds so much like marketing and irrelevant if it wasn't. Also if it wasn't marketing, why would he ask for me to schedule a video call? Once again I could be wrong, and if I am, I am sorry, but I can't see how this isn't marketing. -Cynthia On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:18 PM Volker Greimann <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you totally misread his mail. It reads to me as a proposal to help > you understand the processes used by many providers, not as a sales pitch. > > Best, > -- > Volker A. Greimann > General Counsel and Policy Manager > *KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH* > > T: +49 6894 9396901 > M: +49 6894 9396851 > F: +49 6894 9396851 > W: www.key-systems.net > > Key-Systems GmbH is a company registered at the local court of > Saarbruecken, Germany with the registration no. 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If you have received this email in > error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete this > email with any files that may be attached. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 6:12 PM Cynthia Revström via anti-abuse-wg < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> (intro) >> Tobias Knecht sent me an email (which this is a reply to) abusing his >> position as co-chair in order to try to sell me services based on what I >> said on a mailing list. >> >> (mainly towards Tobias) >> Replying to me based on a mailing list post in order to try to sell me >> services is bad enough. >> To do it as a co-chair and then to use the fact that you are co-chair as >> a selling point is much worse. >> >> I find this utterly appalling behaviour from a co-chair of a working >> group, I didn't reach out to you, you weren't even in the thread at all. >> >> also this: >> > As a Co-Chair I didn't want to jump into the mix on the mailing list, >> that's why I'm reaching out to you directly. >> >> I mean that is sort of the point of co-chairs generally speaking but yeah >> it is going to look bad if you are trying to sell something, because it is >> bad. >> >> (mainly towards chair team and aa-wg chairs) >> A co-chair of a working group should absolutely be warned or removed if >> they abuse their position to sell their services. >> >> I also somehow doubt that this is the first time, I could be wrong, but >> idk why this would be the first time. >> >> I hate it when for example Cogent sends me emails trying to sell me >> services despite me never having contacted them (outside of replying saying >> I am not interested). >> But this is more like if the Cogent sales people were co-chairs of the >> db-wg. >> >> Also with a subject like "RIPE AA-WG discussion" I initially thought it >> was actually about something I said or whatever, in his role as co-chair, >> it didn't appear like it was a sales email. >> >> I have also CC'd the aa-wg and ripe list as this is too appalling to be >> held private. >> >> -Cynthia >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 5:50 PM Tobias Knecht <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Cynthia, >>> >>> my name is Tobias. 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