Dear Randy, I think Leo has already responded to most of your points. I just want to let you know that I am listening and that I am taking this seriously (we definitely don't want people to feel uncomfortable to bring up content). You are right that this is a bit of process-heavy time (with two task forces, updating the PDP and other documentation). But don't worry this won’t last forever.
Kind regards, Mirjam On 21/05/2021 19:20, Randy Bush wrote: > < rant > > > [ trying to clarify what i meant at the mic; but probably just digging > a deeper hole ] > > i would not be up at 2am if i did not care about the CoC, DB, ... like > you, i think these things are important. and the folk working on them > are really good and nice and also care a lot (but i am already married). > and they are working hard and really trying and usually succeeding in > getting stuff done. > > so please tell us about it! the content, not the form/process. yes, i > could join your mailing list, read your documents (i often do), ... but > i have a life and two full-time jobs, and come to the plenary, WG, or > whatever at 2am to get a high content summary. > > i stay up to 3am for content, not form. we are becoming humorless and > fear based. i am thinking of making a generic Task Force Report slide > deck, where it shows X meetings, Y consultations, Z surveys, and thanks > for NCC support. you just put the TF's name at the top, plug in X, Y, > and Z, and it's done! > > because i *care* about the subject, i *really* want to learn of the > interesting issues that were found and how they were resolved. what > issues remain? what did the TF learn that was unexpected? protein, not > process. i trust you for the process, and really doubt you can make it > interesting to me at 2am. > > yes, 42 engineers will have opinions on these; and half those opinions > will be um, questionable. and some, such as this one, will be presented > a bit roughly. sorry. welcome to a world filled with us funny monkeys. > you did want input. and you get the big bucks for filtering and using > it. > > but talk is cheap. how can i help TF folk to feel comfortable enough to > put your content out? > > i just heard a svp of a massive net company ask their team and peers > "what would you do if you were not afraid?" > > randy > > --- > [email protected] > `gpg --locate-external-keys --auto-key-locate wkd [email protected]` > signatures are back, thanks to dmarc header butchery > >
