I can’t believe I agree with Jordi in this one (and I hope I am not violating the CoC by saying this)
But… HPH with a whole RIPE NCC communications team couldn’t miss interpret the CoC, right? They even went as far as to quote the articles the e-mail violates… So, if the CoC’s interpretation of Denis’ e-mail says he is violating a few articles, then we definitely have the wrong CoC or the wrong interpretation. What I don’t understand is the first sentence in HPH’s e-mail. Had Denis been a regular community member (no wg chair hats), would the message have been different or just private? Elvis On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 02:03 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list < [email protected]> wrote: > Totally agree with what others have said: I don't think Denis email had > anything wrong. > > Each person has a different way to say things. Language and expressions > may look a bit in the limit sometimes, especially when the reader is not > native speaker (or even worst, when you aren't English native speaker and > you write in English), but I can't find anything wrong in that specific > message. > > This brings us to another big problem: > > * if the CoC can be interpreted in such way, we have the wrong CoC * and > that's really dangerous, because it means that the one who judges the CoC > can become a dictator. > > (just to make sure I'm on the safe side and not being accused myself about > breking the CoC: I'm not accusing anyone here, just expressing what a wrong > CoC can mean) > > Regards, > Jordi > @jordipalet > > > > El 1/2/22 10:32, "ripe-list en nombre de Carlos Friaças via ripe-list" < > [email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: > > > +1. > > I honestly didn't read Denis' lenghty e-mail until i read HPH's > message, > and thought "oh i really need to go back and read that" :-) > > Regards, > Carlos > > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > > I too agree with Denis and Gert but there is no need to accept > blame. Denis > > is not accusing anyone. If anything, we are all to blame for not > being as > > diligent as Denis. Denis has even suggested a way forward: > > > > "it will benefit the RIPE NCC to employ someone qualified or > experienced in > > contract law to review and re-write all the NCC's contracts and > agreements so > > they actually say what they were intended to mean." > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Hank-- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or > change your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of > the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly > prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the > intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or > use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including > attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal > offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this > communication and delete it. > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list >
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