Hi,

Thanks for this. 
I have two comments. One on the actual description of the role, and one of the 
selection process. 

Role Description
As someone who has served on the NRO NC, I think it would be helpful to have a 
clear description of what the role actually entails and the workload associated 
with the role. This is vital for transparency, in particular for volunteer 
positions. Clear role descriptions make it easier for those who may not be in 
the inner circle in a community to feel encouraged to step forward and 
volunteer. 

Personally, I only stepped forward after having done some pretty significant 
research and quizzing those already in the role, to ensure that I was the right 
fit and that I could commit the time. If we want more people to step forward 
and volunteer, it is key to be clear about what we are asking from them. 

Imo it needs to clear that whoever serves on the NRO NC is expected to (among 
other things):
- Actively participate in all NRO NC teleconferences (monthly) and in-person 
meetings (usually only per year, at one of the ICANN meetings)
- Actively participate in all IANA RC teleconferences
- Attend at least one ICANN meeting per year 
- Attend (in-person or remotely) all RIPE meetings
- Stay abreast with policy developments in the RIPE region 
- Keep the RIPE community informed of any relevant NRO NC/ ASO / ICANN 
developments 

There is also some non-trivial workload associated with the Seat 9 and 10 
selection process for the ICANN board, in which the NRO NC members are expected 
to actively drive. It could be helpful to provide a little more information 
about what this process actually entails. (There is an initial selection 
process, there is an interview process etc. A subsection of the NRO NC is 
driving the process, but as a member of the NRO NC you are expected to 
participate and gather enough information about each candidate to contribute 
with your evaluation.) 

As the ICANN board seats are rather prominent appointments and it involves some 
rather sensitive information, I also think it would be comme-il-faut to have 
some sort of Conflict of Interest and Confidentiality policy for NRO NC members 
to sign and adhere to, (particularly in regards to the ICANN board selection). 

Voting Eligibility
I find the current eligibility rather weak (register for the meeting), 
especially given some of the developments we have seen in other RIR communities 
with attempts to stack elections. This process may have worked in the earlier 
days when there was not much focus on these roles, but it is very easy to 
manipulate this process if someone has bad intentions. 

I don’t have a great suggestion and there is no perfect process, but I think 
the APNIC one is at least an attempt to make a better process
(https://www.apnic.net/community/participate/elections/nro-elections/nro-voting/).
 

In essence to be either: 
1. APNIC member
or
2. Registered for the current meeting, plus at least one of the last 8 meetings

My 2cts.

Thanks and kind regards,
Nurani Nimpuno






> On 29 Apr 2023, at 12:11, Dmitry Kohmanyuk via ripe-list <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 2023-04-29, at 12:12, Leo Vegoda <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It all looks pretty reasonable, so a +1 from me.
>> 
>> It might be helpful to place the explanation of what the NRO NC does
>> at the top of the document as that is the "why do we care" bit. At the
>> moment, that follows the scope and some history.
>> 
> 
> As a former member of NRO NC, I appreciate clarity that comes with new 
> document.  Perhaps we should remind of new nomination procedure before next 
> NC election, too?
> 
>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 03:01, Mirjam Kuehne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>> On 28/04/2023 09:14, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>> 
>>>> As promised, we reviewed and updated the processes related to the
>>>> election of representatives from the RIPE community to the Number
>>>> Resource Organization (NRO) Numbering Council (NC). The draft document
>>>> is now available online for your review:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/other-documents/nro-nc-election-process/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, please send them to
>>>> this list or to me directly before 19 May 2023.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I realised I could have provided some more context here: The current
>>> process was developed over 20 years ago and is fairly high-level and
>>> leaves a lot of room for interpretation:
>>> https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/address-council-election-procedure
>>> 
>>> This was recognised and discussed by the community, and the RIPE Chair
>>> Team together with the RIPE NCC took on the task to review this
>>> procedure. In this new draft document we describe a more detailed
>>> process, including candidate and voter eligibility, term limits and the
>>> election process itself.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Mirjam Kühne
>>> 
>>> 
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