Although we all are neutral and advocate foe net Neutrality  , but in reality 
no one can ignore and/ or eliminate the influence of geopolitics on the  
internet,  so its common sense, no one is going to Mossco.

Russian Ukrainian war will affect the Internet sooner or later,  so I suggest 
to think and act according to what's happening in reality and try our best to 
avoid thinking of utopian internet , I know we all are trying our best to keep 
one open and free Internet for everyone, but it is the time   for having our 
feet on the ground

Best regards

Nabeel Yasin
Tel/WhatsApp: +967 777006885




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From: ripe-list <[email protected]> on behalf of Hisham Ibrahim 
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Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 4:05 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [ripe-list] Sunsetting ENOG

Dear colleagues,

ENOG (Eurasian Network Operators' Group) was established in June 2011 as a 
means to bring RIPE and the RIPE NCC closer to the local communities in Eurasia 
and to support Internet development in the region.

Last year, we indefinitely postponed what would have been the 19th ENOG 
Meeting, slated to be held in Moscow. In the run up to that decision, we heard 
from many community members, first at a Birds of a Feather (BoF) session on the 
future of ENOG at ENOG 19 and subsequently during the BoF at RIPE 85 in 
Belgrade and on the ENOG Discuss mailing list. I then shared an email to the 
ENOG Discuss list, outlining the RIPE NCC’s view on the matter [1].

These dialogues highlighted the complexities involved in continuing engagement 
efforts through ENOG and we appreciate the community’s willingness to have 
difficult but much needed conversations. In light of these discussions, we 
believe it is time to dissolve ENOG as a RIPE NCC regional platform. It is in 
no one’s interest to continue to support a platform that can no longer serve 
its purpose or deliver meaningful outcomes. If, in the future, the community 
indicates that there is a constructive role for ENOG to play, we will be open 
to this discussion.

In practical terms, this means that we will archive the ENOG website and sunset 
the mailing list as of 31 July 2023, after which it will be kept as a read-only 
site. ENOG Meetings have already ceased to take place, and we will not plan 
ENOG Meetings for the foreseeable future. We thank everyone who has contributed 
their time and effort towards ENOG over the past decade.

The RIPE NCC remains as committed as ever to supporting the technical 
communities in our service region. Our focus going forward will be on more 
localised efforts, whether this is training, workshops, providing staff to 
speak at events or supporting NOGs.

Since our decision to postpone ENOG 19, we have also hosted our first Central 
Asia Peering and Interconnection Forum meeting in Kazakhstan last year, and the 
second of these events will take place in Tashkent, Uzbekistan from 19-20 
September 2023 [2]. We will continue to host smaller events such as RIPE NCC 
Days and Internet Measurement Days (IMD) in the region that used to be covered 
by ENOG events, such as the IMD Kyrgyzstan which took place recently. We’ve 
supported other events including the KZ NOG, Baykal NOG, the Georgia NOG, the 
Kyrgyzstan IT Forum and the Central Asia, Armenia, Georgia and Moldova Internet 
Governance Forums (IGFs). We continue to engage with the Ukrainian Internet 
community through various online initiatives and our staff in Ukraine.

We encourage you to take a look at NOGs and other activities taking place 
within the region [3].

Please reach out to us if you have thoughts on how we can better support the 
technical communities in your region.

Regards,
Hisham Ibrahim
Chief Community Officer
RIPE NCC

[1] A request to terminate ENOG: 
https://enog-apps-2.ripe.net/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/3AJSUFXVRDOVI764J2OTUSMHODXHYQT3/

[2] CAPIF 2: Tashkent:
https://www.ripe.net/capif-2

[3] Network Operator Groups:
https://labs.ripe.net/nogs/

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