Petra.Zeidler--- via ripe-list <[email protected]> wrote: > Andrew Campling <[email protected]> writes: >> Irrespective of any view regarding rights holders, the lack of >> effective KYC procedures is also a problem in combating both malicious >> and illegal content
> Know Your Customer does require that someone IS their customer, right?
> Which in very many cases will not be the case for resource users and
> RIPE.
> In cases of someone using "fallow" resources without authorization by
> the formal resource holder, would you also blame the RIPE database for
> having incorrect info?
Isn't this why the RIRs send out these yearly reminders to verify contact info?
> Let me point out that even a "bulletproof" hoster will not beam their
> packets onto the Internet but will be connected to an uplink or
> uplinks, which ought to be readily traceable with a plain traceroute
> until you find the closest-to-them entity you can identify and that
> picks up their phones, which likely have a contract either with the
> hoster or their provider (and maybe even an acceptable use
> policy). Following that scavenger-hunt wise is sure more work than just
> looking it up in a phone book (RIR database), but the likelihood of
> finding entities whose customers the sought-after parties are is
> distinctly better.
It's clear from many interactions with canadian federal bureaucrats that such
a proceedure, while obvious to us, is not at all obvious to them. Even
*internally* they have no idea that it is possible to do. (Unicast me)
My opinion: we (the RIR community), can do better.
There is some give and take with law enforcemenet, and this is a place where
we can give a bit more. We do that in order to keep them from thinking they
have to take things, like end to end encryption.
--
Michael Richardson <[email protected]> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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